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 VH
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We just had to replace our TDS Ranger for our Trimble 5600 Robot. We purchased a Carlson Surveyor+. After a couple hours fooling around I've figured out most of the basics so we can begin working with it this weekend, however I have yet to figure out linework. Anyone know how to incorporate line work (hopefully TDS style), BEG, END, C3, etc..?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted : 14/11/2014 11:13 am
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+7 = BEG
-7 = END
PC = C3

Those are used as part of the description/code.

EP+7
EP
EP
EP
EP PC
EP
EP
EP
EP-7

You don't have to use both +7 and -7. You can just do one or the other.

You open the rw5 in the Carlson desktop software and export to fbk, if you're using C3D/LDD.

 
Posted : 14/11/2014 11:41 am
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Thanks. We are using LDD 2009. I usually convert my RAW to a fbk before importing. I'm guessing the codes will be written to the RW5 as BEG, END, etc., or will I need to modify in the fbk file?

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Posted : 14/11/2014 11:47 am
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are you talking linework in the collector? or in your cad? or both

 
Posted : 14/11/2014 11:56 am
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I'm looking to have linework codes written to the RAW (or RW5) so when I convert to a fbk, and import into CAD the linework comes in. I'm not interested in drawing linework in the collector itself, but if that's a necessity to have the linework import to CAD, so be it.

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Posted : 14/11/2014 11:59 am
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Yes, when you export the fbk, it will convert the +7, -7, PC, to BEG, END, and C3 notes in the fbk.

 
Posted : 14/11/2014 12:19 pm
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just stick to your same coding and convert the raw to fieldbook..the carlson coding works only with carlson software...at least as far as I know..

 
Posted : 14/11/2014 12:24 pm
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Right, but is there a function to enter the code prior to and after the shot?

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Posted : 14/11/2014 12:28 pm
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Think I may have it...ALT L allows you to write to the RAW during data collection.

Will try in the field tomorrow.

Thanks all for the input.

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Posted : 14/11/2014 12:35 pm
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I don't think you need to use those codes at all if you aren't going to do f2f linework on the dc. Of course, I found it handy for checking field work before heading to the office.
You should just be able to code the shots any way you want in your shot descriptions and those do come out in the raw file when exported.
Just make sure you have your description set correctly before you hit store point.
It's been a few years but I think you can key that in either before or after you take your shot. Just be sure it's what you want before you store it.

I don't recall but there may be an option to automatically store the shot immediately after it's taken. I really don't remember so be sure to find out.
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Posted : 14/11/2014 1:16 pm
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Here is the quick explanation. You must set up a code file and then set it current in the settings . We use carlson in the office so I can export it to carlson collector. But you can set it up by hand in the data collector aswell and save it . what this does is sets a series of buttons in the collection routine that will start and end lines and automatically keep up with line numbers and current running lines. It automatically codes the raw file and point description. There are other buttons for line and point commands as we'll so very limited typing needed for command codes or current running lines . You can set the line command how ever your cad software needs then in settings. This will also draw line in your data collector.
It will automatically number the next line code ,say tbc for example . Say you have tbc2 going and want a new tbc , all you type the next shot ,is tbc and and hit the new line button it puts a 3 on the end for so you don't have to keep up with number.

You don't have to save anything to raw file or notes .

I can give a more detailed instruction if needed.

 
Posted : 14/11/2014 5:55 pm
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Also the note function under the hat will write a note to the raw file .

 
Posted : 14/11/2014 6:15 pm
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> Also the note function under the hat will write a note to the raw file .

Bingo, I think he was after the "NOTE" function.

:gammon:

 
Posted : 14/11/2014 6:38 pm
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He should not have to do that if he sets it up correctly in the code settings. It uses any f2f method.
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Posted : 14/11/2014 6:51 pm
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I know, right? I have not had to utilize that NOTE feature since I left fbk files in the dust in 2011 when I went the Carlson route. Now all I have to export are comma delimited ascii txt files and walla, "Houston we have line work."

Like:

102,5000,5000,100,B BOC

Easy peasy.

 
Posted : 14/11/2014 6:58 pm
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Carlson coding will work just fine. The first thing to do is set-up your standard descriptors. Then you can set up your feature code list in AutoCAD.
If it is all fuzzy, go to That CAD Girl's web site and look at her training manuals. They are very well prepared and easy to understand. Also cadapult.com has an outstanding book by Rick Ellis that covers the Carlson goodies.
I have a descriptor code list made up that I would be glad to share with you. I print these things out and laminate them for the field crews to use. The cards also explain the line work coding that you need.
If you would like a copy of the code list or one of the laminated field card sets just send me your email address or snail mail address through this site and I will be glad to send you.

 
Posted : 14/11/2014 8:04 pm
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> Carlson coding will work just fine. The first thing to do is set-up your standard descriptors. Then you can set up your feature code list in AutoCAD.
> If it is all fuzzy, go to That CAD Girl's web site and look at her training manuals. They are very well prepared and easy to understand. Also cadapult.com has an outstanding book by Rick Ellis that covers the Carlson goodies.
> I have a descriptor code list made up that I would be glad to share with you. I print these things out and laminate them for the field crews to use. The cards also explain the line work coding that you need.
> If you would like a copy of the code list or one of the laminated field card sets just send me your email address or snail mail address through this site and I will be glad to send you.

I will do the same if y'all are interested.

:gammon:

 
Posted : 14/11/2014 8:18 pm
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My point is that he doesn't have do any of that all if he's not trying to do linework/f2f on the dc. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
I don't mind being wrong - just show me how so.
It always worked mighty well for me/us.

 
Posted : 14/11/2014 8:34 pm
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I was just reading through the carlson ftf on the website...looks like I need to switch software...Carlson field software has really advanced in the last few years. Plus I use it in the office.

 
Posted : 15/11/2014 5:27 am
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Its allows for very few keys to be typed when collecting data . Its fast.

 
Posted : 15/11/2014 7:59 am
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