UNB BACHELOR OF GEOMATICS COURSES

So, if you used 1/2 of what you learned in college in your career would you consider your education wasted? I would say I have used more than 1/2 the surveying (42 credit hours) I learned in college.

As an aside I considered myself fortunate to have used 15% of what I learned getting a BS CE as making me a fortunate person. That low number is why getting a PE now almost or does require a Master In CE, to get beyond the general engineering knowledge which more often than not is 4.5-5 years to start with a BS.

I would say in most fields 10-15% or less of education gets utilized in working.

Switching careers a few times gives you more opportunities if you can do it without returning to college.

Paul in PA, PE, PLS

First, 19 hours of calculus (16% of the total) and 0 of algebra, trigonometry, geometry, statistics, and technical writing catches my eye.

Second, If I took all that training I wouldn't find a career in fence line staking very satisfying.

Mark Mayer, post: 391933, member: 424 wrote: First, 19 hours of calculus (16% of the total) and 0 of algebra, trigonometry, geometry, statistics, and technical writing catches my eye.

Agree on statistics, however (IMVHO) algebra, geometry, and trigonometry are high school subjects. When I was a freshman majoring in architecture (1981) anything below calculus was considered remedial and didn't count toward your required hours for a degree.

As Mr Fleming notes a solid pre-college academic record is expected in high-quality programs like this. To see what they expect of candidates for admission see: http://www.unb.ca/admissions/requirements/#

Very rigorous. Obviously not enough geodesy...

GeeOddMike, post: 391936, member: 677 wrote: a solid pre-college academic record is expected in high-quality programs like this

Bit of a hijack....I have a friend who's son is starting at Cambridge this term. For students who have graduated from high schools in the US they require five AP exams passed with a score of 5 to be considered qualified for acceptance.

I might as well go for an engineering degree if you can get through the calculus classes.

Just remember that a bachelor's in the US would have at least 1/4 to 1/3 (at least) filled with general education requirements like liberal arts and social science courses.

For comparison, I link to the Geomatics program at Texas A&M-Corpus Christi here: http://catalog.tamucc.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=13&poid=1119

The program also includes a option for those possessing a bachelor degree to take a a limited number of courses for a certificate helping to qualify to take the surveying exam. Unfortunately, some students were unprepared for the maths (and technical writing).

BTW, when I was on the academic advisory board for a surveying program in Maryland I was told exactly what "cordgrass" posted: make the program too rigorous and it will drive students to engineering.

I think all those classes are usefull, but to be a good education for a land surveyor you would need to pile on some more legal/boundary classes.

aliquot, post: 391954, member: 2486 wrote: I think all those classes are usefull, but to be a good education for a land surveyor you would need to pile on some more legal/boundary classes.

Not necessary in New Brunswick which is converting to a Torrens System. Surveying will be more of a technical exercise.

As to the lack of statistics I agree. I had 15 hours of calculus but no statistics as a part of my BS CE. For surveying a 4 credit, more advanced that the typical 3 credit courses should be the minimum. However statistics was a part of my first surveying courses and advanced problems were a part of a later course, so it may not be a problem if it is not covered in an independent statistics course.

Paul in PA

aliquot, post: 391954, member: 2486 wrote: I think all those classes are usefull, but to be a good education for a land surveyor you would need to pile on some more legal/boundary classes.

I agree. Why would "Survey Law" be an elective?

rfc, post: 391963, member: 8882 wrote: Why would "Survey Law" be an elective?

Because they are training geomaticians who will work on major public works like bridges, dams, tunnels, airports, 100 story skyscrapers, and statewide control networks, etc. Boundary work? Not so much.

All summer long I've been trying to hire a recent graduate that obtained her BS in Civil Engineering to be a cadd operator until she found her rainbow.
The company that she interned with did withdrew their offer after she graduated.
So waiting to take the CE exam she is behind a cash register at a stop and go family owned store.
Her mom told me that her daughter did not go to school to make survey drawings.
Locally, there is not much available for a new engineer as all the engineering needs are usually done by grant mills from some other place on the map.
The need for a Engineer, GIS or Geomatician is mostly nill.

cordgrass, post: 391947, member: 11027 wrote: I might as well go for an engineering degree if you can get through the calculus classes.

Then you'd have to be an engineer:dizzy:.....I tried that and after getting my engineering degree I immediately went back for my surveying degree.

I had the pleasure of working with two UNB grads while I was in So Cal 2002-2006. Super smart guys and really hard workers.

I am doing this degree at UNB. I am not sure about the prospects but I do like the courses the professors and the university is good. How would you rate the program for someone interested in becoming a land surveyor?

Because of this thread, I contacted UNB, spoke to Michelle Ryan, and recently went to interview students for full-time and internships.

I was impressed with all seven students who I interviewed, we've made offers, and have some coming to work for us in January.

JOHN MACOLINI, post: 398986, member: 7340 wrote: Because of this thread, I contacted UNB, spoke to Michelle Ryan, and recently went to interview students for full-time and internships.

I was impressed with all seven students who I interviewed, we've made offers, and have some coming to work for us in January.

John,

I'm just wondering. If they're not US citizens, are they able to use TN visas? Or something else?

Thanks,
Melita

mkennedy, post: 399019, member: 7183 wrote: John,

I'm just wondering. If they're not US citizens, are they able to use TN visas? Or something else?

Thanks,
Melita

Yes, that's it. We've had some success already with students/graduates from Newfoundland.

It's a fairly simple process, takes place right at Customs - just have to make sure that you have all of the paperwork in order.