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I am curious about the popularity of the Surveying magazines and which ones seem to be favorites.

Excluding the ACSM mag I can think of POB, American Surveyor, and Professional Surveyor, at least those are what I receive.

Which is the most read magazine?

I know POB is the oldest, I remember when Professional Surveyor started in the early 80's, and I know that American Surveyor is very new, maybe 5 years old or so? I've thought that American Surveyor was pretty good for sticking to local (USA) surveying issues, but they do branch out to international projects.

What do y'all think? What do you like?

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Posted : June 28, 2011 9:42 am
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I get all of them, but my favorite is GIM.


 
Posted : June 28, 2011 9:58 am
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Of the three mentioned, American Surveyor is my favorite to read.


 
Posted : June 28, 2011 10:03 am
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I get the big 3 also. I don't read them as through as I use to. Guess I am getting old and burned-out after over 40 years of this every day. I will get my second wind soon. I always have in the past.


 
Posted : June 28, 2011 10:05 am
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I enjoy reading all three of them. But if cornered and threatened with death to choose my favorite, I'd probably go with American Surveyor. I wasn't aware of GIM until Cliff's post, but I just subscribed. 🙂


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Posted : June 28, 2011 10:09 am

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> I am curious about the popularity of the Surveying magazines and which ones seem to be favorites.
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> Excluding the ACSM mag I can think of POB, American Surveyor, and Professional Surveyor, at least those are what I receive.
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> What do y'all think? What do you like?
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> Dtp

All of the above is my answer.
No preference.

It all depends on an enjoyable article to read for a few minutes.
I like reading particular columnists/scribes from all three.
Current issues of POB & American Surveyor are OK.
POB leans toward the geospatial community with a lot of lidar and scanning articles.
PSM has a lot on RTN this month.
I try to read them all online.

PSM and AS are more user friendly to read on-line.
POB has an annoying pop-up and too much clutter at home page.

I told POB to cease the US mail copy but it still is delivered.


 
Posted : June 28, 2011 10:11 am
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I like all of them, but my preference is POB, I enjoy articles by those legendary surveyors like MLB and Don Poole....


 
Posted : June 28, 2011 10:27 am
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Surveying Magazines> a poll>Cliff

What is GIM?


 
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Surveying Magazines> a poll>Cliff

http://www.gim-international.com/


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Posted : June 28, 2011 10:30 am
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Surveying Magazines> a poll>Cliff

"GIM-International" is the international magazine for geomatics - it's European, mostly Dutch & Swiss.

I also like "Coordinates," the monthly magazine on positioning, navigation and beyond - it's mostly from India with heavy emphasis on Asian stuff; a bit on US, though.


 
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Surveying Magazines> a poll>Cliff

thanks wendell..... I've signed up, too...


 
Posted : June 28, 2011 10:33 am
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I really like American Surveyor!

I like the historical subjects mostly. Also, educational stuff can be interesting so long as it is practical for the everyday surveyor. I just wish the major magazines would understand that concept, that we all aren't big surveying outfits using a scanner 24/7.

You could say I frequent this forum and the old RPLS forum because of the interesting jobs others share on here such as Deral's Pipe/Stone job, Daryl M's photoblogs, Penry's recovery of old monuments, etc. If there are pictures, with some explanations about them, I enjoy reading about it. That's what is missing from POB and ProfSurv. I can't say AmerSurv is totally different; they still cover the BS like the other two, but not as much and do generally deliver some interesting articles.

Something these magazines should venture into if they haven't already are video-blogs or stories. It would be neat to see them video the recovery of some 100 year old marker or prove some section corners, for example, and talk about the research and work that enabled them to do so! Of course, videos don't equate magazine content, so am not sure how open they'd be to that idea.


 
Posted : June 28, 2011 10:40 am
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California Surveyor.

Hands down the best magazine out there, although a CA magazine, it is a great read for anyone.

Winner of the NSPS journalism award for the 4th straight year.

Kinda disappointed in the last couple of issues of American Surveyor. There's been some good articles, but there have also been some articles by one fairly recently licensed individual that are on par with a college freshman term paper. Full of incomplete research and off the cuff opinions. I know the magazine is free and all, but its disappointing to see articles make it past the editor's desk that really should have a qualified peer review before publishing.


 
Posted : June 28, 2011 10:47 am
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That's the difference between a trade tournal and a peer-reviewed journal. Peer-reviewed journals (except for some "e-journals"), are NOT free. You get what you pay for.

For Academics, writing in a trade journal counts for zero, zilch, nada - except for the aprox. $200/1000 words you get paid by the publisher.

In some peer-reviewed journals, they want YOU to pay to publish your paper after it is vetted by your peers. The "Journal of Shipbuilding" is one of them ...


 
Posted : June 28, 2011 11:59 am
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Understood, however I would like to add that I'm aware of many great writings in trade magazines that are the result of the author requesting peer review from a mentor or respected collegue prior to submitting to the publication. My issue is not with the editorial staff for not employing a peer reviewer, but is simply a suggestion that authors seek out a peer review as way of improving their presentations prior to publication.


 
Posted : June 28, 2011 12:19 pm

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Yes, but there's a lot of Land Surveyors that are busy doing land surveying and their peers are in exactly the same boat. Rather than sitting in an air conditioned office (like I do), they're busy out doing their profession. They don't know any academics, and neither do their peers. It's a rare occurence when they have enough spare time to quickly write up an interesting project, and the trade journals are desperate for copy.

It's different worlds. I've written some articles in the past for Professional Surveyor magazine, and the articles were well-received; but the people here at LSU looked down their noses as what I was doing.

I write a monthly column in Photogrammetric Engineering and Remote Sensing, and I have been doing so since 1997. I write on the history and chronology of geodetic surveying and coordinate systems and datums (Grids and Datums) of a different country each month. Being a refereed journal, there's a whole lot of snooty-tooty scientific papers published each month. However, the Editors constantly plead for submissions on "practical applications" based on practical real-world problems rather than on theoretical materials. Those are rare, because people doing real-world applications are busy doing real work - they don't have time to write up an article.

It's different worlds.


 
Posted : June 28, 2011 12:37 pm
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At one time, I had magazine subscriptions to POB, Prof Surv, American Surveyor, CE News, GIM, GPS World, Cadalyst, SAMSOG, FSMS, ALPLS, MAPS & a couple others I don't remember at the moment.

I haven't renewed anything lately, and haven't read one in several months now...


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Posted : June 28, 2011 3:18 pm
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However, the Editors constantly plead for submissions on "practical applications" based on practical real-world problems rather than on theoretical materials. Those are rare, because people doing real-world applications are busy doing real work - they don't have time to write up an article.
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> It's different worlds.

nail on the head bro...people doing the real world applications are also the magazines audience...


 
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