Help me out fellow surveyors. Instead of visiting every state board and seeking the information, I though I could gain most of the info quickly on here. I am sure I will have to do a few. I am doing a college paper and I need to know some facts.
Does your state require any formal education before you can be licensed?
If so, how much and what?
Thanks in advance for your input.
I believe Texas is now a 4 year degree requirement with associated studies- but I am apparently an old timer and could be wrong;-)
> ... Instead of visiting every state board and seeking the information, I though I could gain most of the info quickly on here....Does your state require any formal education before you can be licensed?
In both Oregon and Oklahoma the rules have become pretty complicated.
Oklahomans have one more test opportunity to get licensed without some post secondary education. After 2014 at least some college will be required, although not necessarily a 4 year degree in Surveying.
Oregon still has an experience-only path to licensure, but it's a long one.
Both give various credit for various education levels. It's too complicated for anyone outside of the state board office to understand.
NCEES has a "board survey" with lots of information. Here is the link. At the bottom of the table for each board is a link for information for that board. After clicking the link, there are tabs on the left for more specific information about a topic.
A combination of education, examination and experience. I would imagine most states are similar in requirement.
These have recently changed, but basically this is what MA requires.
-V
Yes... Texas is a four year degree. So is New Mexico. Both requiring continuing education.
I'm afraid you'll get a lot of complicated answers to your relatively simply question. The problem I believe is that a lot of states will have different combinations regarding whether the degree is in land surveying or not, sometimes engineering degrees, different qualifications if it's a 2-year associate's degree vs. a four-year degree, etc.
Colorado give more credit for a four-year degree in surveying, but also give some credits for some college courses toward your experience. It allows for the ability to get a license without a degree at the present time, but there is an expiration on how long you'll be able to do that. (Oddly enough, you can get a license as a professional engineer and some other disciplines in this state without a degree as well.)
Anyway, good luck. Also if you do a search you might find where this has been addressed before and you might be able to tally some of those responses as well.
In Louisiana, it's a 4-year Baccalaureate in anything which must include at least 30 semester hours in approved land surveying-related coursework in order to qualify to take the Surveyor-In-Training examination. Then it's experience plus further examination.
Ohio is four year degree only. Has to be surveying or civil eng with xx number of hours in surveying courses. O.A.C. 4733-9
Texas has a 4 year degree requirement but it does not require the degree to be in surveying or engineering. The only requirement is that you have 32 hours of surveying related courses + a 4 year degree. Case in point, I graduated with a B.B.A. in Finance before I even knew land surveying existed. Some of my courses (like business law and math) counted towards the 32 hours needed. Over the years I have taken other surveying classes (mostly through Odessa College) in order to get the 32 hours needed. I took the licensing exam this October.
Cy
Pretty sure the degree in LA has to be a B.S., not a B.A.
I would be surprised if that is true, as some states distinguish between the two as a B.A. if they took a foreign language or a B.S. if they did not. Has nothing to do with additional science coursework. Arizona is one example of that.
PA requires 2 or 4 year degrees to apply for testing. Minimum requirement for the SIT is a 2 year associate degree.
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PA has a variety of requirements:
New Law
4 years BS Surveying
2 years AS Surveing
4 years BS Civil Engineering plus 10 surveying credits
allows you to sit for FS. After that extra experience for the PS.
Old Law, experience began before or education before 1991
4 years BS Surveying
2 years AS Surveing
4 years BS Civil Engineering plus 10 surveying credits
allows you to sit for FS and PS at same time with sufficient experience.
In general states that have an ABET BS program within the state require an ABET degree. States that don't, usually accept non ABET degrees. Some states only require a surveying certificate, about 1/2 the credits of an AS. Some states accept education as experience. In most states the better the education the less experience required.
As I understand it this is an assignment as a part of a surveying course. In my mind you have failed. Visiting all the state sites and reading all the laws was to be a part of your education. Apparently you only want easy education.
Paul in PA
> I am doing a college paper and I need to know some facts.
>
Darn, when I was in school I had to do my own research, compile, and present. :pinch:
> Darn, when I was in school I had to do my own research, compile, and present. :pinch:
They still might....you're looking at the "research" part.:-P
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> PA has a variety of requirements:
>
> New Law
> 4 years BS Surveying
> 2 years AS Surveing
> 4 years BS Civil Engineering plus 10 surveying credits
> allows you to sit for FS. After that extra experience for the PS.
>
> Old Law, experience began before or education before 1991
> 4 years BS Surveying
> 2 years AS Surveing
> 4 years BS Civil Engineering plus 10 surveying credits
> allows you to sit for FS and PS at same time with sufficient experience.
>
> In general states that have an ABET BS program within the state require an ABET degree. States that don't, usually accept non ABET degrees. Some states only require a surveying certificate, about 1/2 the credits of an AS. Some states accept education as experience. In most states the better the education the less experience required.
>
> As I understand it this is an assignment as a part of a surveying course. In my mind you have failed. Visiting all the state sites and reading all the laws was to be a part of your education. Apparently you only want easy education.
>
> Paul in PA
Thanks for the input Paul. I haven't failed. This is data that I am collecting myself for a possible addition to a paper that I am writing. Please don't make assumptions that you have no clue about or sit there and judge. Just give the facts or don't. THANK YOU!
Wrong On PA
> Please don't make assumptions that you have no clue about or sit there and judge.
New to the internet, are we? 😀
Wrong On PA
> > Please don't make assumptions that you have no clue about or sit there and judge.
>
> New to the internet, are we? 😀
Nope... been using it just as long as you old farts! 🙂
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> Thanks for the input Paul. I haven't failed. This is data that I am collecting myself for a possible addition to a paper that I am writing. Please don't make assumptions that you have no clue about or sit there and judge. Just give the facts or don't. THANK YOU!
No offense Scott, but we can only work with the data given... and we as a profession are trained to question the source (Source: your stated premise, and the source of the data you collect) :-S
good luck on your project... and please verify the data you collect here
