...As I grew up I learned to fill in the gaps in my hearing by reading lips. I thought everyone else did too. Now with the vision deficit its harder to read lips. With the pandemic and mask use, lip reading doesn't help much anymore.
Ain't that the truth.?ÿ In my old age I have lost a good part of the hearing in my left ear.?ÿ After a few years I realized I was getting pretty good at reading lips.?ÿ My favorite is watching mad football coaches on the sidelines cussing a blue streak.?ÿ Face masks sure put the kibosh on reading lips.
It helps to know the subject of discussion when reading lips.?ÿ I mistake lots of words for something else.?ÿ When someone says olive oil at times it can look to me like they're saying I love you.?ÿ The other day I watched someone say vacuum...I'll let the readers try and figure out what it looked like they were saying.?ÿ 😉
@jonathan50 for me it was flying Cessnas without hearing protection.
I suspect most of the boomers in here it originated at loud rock concerts. For a time from the 70s to the 90s it was impossible to have a restaurant meal in peace because of the blaring music.
hearing loss is loud.
I attribute my hearing deficiency to too many hours driving a tractor while under age 22.?ÿ Lots and lots of hours.?ÿ Several of the mufflers were directly in front of me just a few feet.?ÿ The others were about the same distance but below and behind me.?ÿ I didn't have the money to go to concerts, so that can't be it.?ÿ But, I have spent many hours in high school gymnasiums with the rafters shaking from the roar of the crowd.
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glad to youre back in the forum, I'm busy lately, and like the others wondered where you had wandered off to, thanks for popping back in, I enjoy your posts, and look forward to reading more of them.
I have hearing loss from construction, logging, and firearms use.?ÿ My audiologist showed me a chart that compared the higher pitched tones that I can't hear to the higher pitch tones used in the English language.?ÿ Basically, I can hear people speaking, but because I miss out on the sounds from Ps, Ss, Fs, Ks and Ts, It's difficult to understand what they are saying.
I have tinnitus, age 45, and it's from listening to loud music, rock concerts and being a drummer. I now carry ear plugs in my car for those situations in hopes of keeping it from getting worse.
I hear a constant high pitch sound in my right ear. Like others, if I concentrate I can hear it quite well but getting my mind onto other things helps. Also, I constantly have some time of background music playing ALL day. In my case, it helps me concentrate having some kind of background noise. Granted, this does not work when my wife is talking.?ÿ
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Yeah... sibilance is the first major decline to occur.
I always wore earplugs and even had a fancy pair made for musicians, and doubled up for the range.
The Rips on the motorcycle or ATVs without helmet never help hearing for sure, and there's that......
I have had tinnitus ever since I was quite young. I remember complaining to my parents about the ringing in my ears, but they never had it checked out with a doctor. It used to keep me awake at night. Pretty much got used to it by my teenage years. I don't go to loud concerts, and generally dislike crowded rooms with people talking all at once. I don't know how people can have conversations in night clubs, etc.
OK, what I am understanding from this thread is that a lot of people suffer from tinnitus. I do. I can remember dealing with it since about the age of 15. Is it the beginning of hearing loss? IDK. I hear a constant whine/whistle that never changes frequency.
Two Led Zeppelin concerts and open expansion chambers on my CZ 400's only added to what was perhaps a genetic condition. My mom has it. Like many others, I can relegate the sound to the background with music or other constant sounds. If I concentrate on the?ÿsingle frequency whine it can become really annoying.
If I am listening for something important and need to be alert to a beep or something, my tinnitus is imperceptible.
I have been helping my mom with her hearing and during a visit to the audiologist, I learned that there are hearing aids that are designed to do to the tinnitus sound what ANC earbuds do. They produce an opposite sound wave that cancels the tinnitus. Maybe some of the technology seekers on this site have experience with these devices.
Any help here?
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@jerry-attrick I always thought hearing loss and tinnitus were two different things.?ÿ Tinnitus is constant ringing - like constant nagging.?ÿ ?ÿGot some hearing aids which stay in the case except when I have a meeting and need to take notes - great recorders.?ÿ Plus, I can hear fish swim !!!
I talked to a very nice lady with a Tinnitus support group last evening. She talked about diet, of what not to eat. Also about a Tinnitus masker that is like a hearing aid that balances the sound Tinnitus makes. Then about retraining therapy that teaches you to cope with Tinnitus. The Tinnitus retraining therapy caught my attention along with sound therapy. I don't know where I'm going to go with this.
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Thanks a lot. My Tinnius goes away if I don't think about it. Now here is this post and everytime time I see it my ear starts in with the sea shell noise. ????ÿ
hearing aids that are designed to do to the tinnitus sound what ANC earbuds do. They produce an opposite sound wave that cancels the tinnitus.
I'm skeptical of this.?ÿ I can believe some may produce masking sounds, but the tone heard as tinnitus is in the nerves; it does not exist as a physical wave, so there can be no cancellation.
A buddy of mine got some hearing aids a few years ago.?ÿ I had no idea his hearing loss was as great as it was, but he was happy with his purchase.
One day at the office he came out of the bathroom smiling.?ÿ He was tickled to be able to hear the toilet tank slowly filling.?ÿ A few days later after a rain I saw him looking at his boots and walking back and forth across the tile floor entry by the back door.?ÿ I had to ask what in the hell he was doing.?ÿ He was fascinated to hear the wet dirt residue on his boots crunching under his steps.
BTW - He and I both swore off working in traffic years ago.?ÿ That's for younger and quicker pups with good ears. 😉
That being said, it made me wonder if "mind over matter" could be a relief (not cure?), and made me think of a couple of relatives who were able to stop smoking by being hypnotized to believe that when the lit up, the smoke smelt like burning rubber, so anyway I see that hypnosis for tinnitus has a reasonable wrap on the www.
I read where someone's solution to tinnitus was to stop fighting against it and "embrace" it. Interesting concept. ?ÿ
Also, Google "Mindfulness". Another mental way of controling it. I just don't have the mental stamina to make it work for me.
As I typed this, tinnitus changed to a higher pitch... twice. Isn't life grand?
"Mindfulness". Another mental way of controling it. I just don't have the mental stamina to make it work for me.
The ??strength? of mindfulness is found in the ability (with practice, as with anything worthwhile) to ??let go? and simply allow or observe.?ÿ
I had it explained to me by the doctor. Tinnius is always there, but since it's impossible to make it go away your mind simply shuts off to it. However, when you're made aware of it (LIKE NOW AS I'M TYPING) it jumps back into your awareness and "starts" up until you stop thinking about it and "forget" you have it. After I get busy doing something else it will eventually be "gone".
You've described my situation almost exactly. I got hearing aids 8 years ago which are supposed to help with the tinnitus in addition to my general hearing loss. They haven't helped much with the tinnitus but have improved my hearing. Environments with high ambient noise levels such as restaurants are still a problem. I've been surprised to discover how much lip reading I've subconciously learned to do over the years. And yes those subharmonics can be maddening.
