Many years ago now I was the middle seat passenger on a 3 man crew heading out on a cool and dewy early morning. While tooling up the road near a podunk town called Ball Ground the fella in the passenger seat became frantic and demanded we stop. As soon the truck came to a stop the fella bailed out and jumped a fence to a cow pasture and proceeded to get down on his knees and was picking shrooms from cow piles. Now I do not generally pay close attention to cow crap but I have never noticed mushrooms growing from them nevertheless he came back with a handful and once we got to the job site he washed them and proceeded to eat a couple and it was not long that he was even more useless than he ordinarily was.
Now I just read that Denver, Colorado is trying to legalize them. You guys out there are not gonna be able to find anybody to work on your crews soon. How have you addressed the the drug free work place when some are legal?
Same as drinkin' and whorin' - do it on your own time.
My first encounter with them was almost exactly 50 years ago - they gave me a whole new perspective on my place in the universe?ÿ ?????ÿ
It MAY be legal but I'd be willing to bet that it will still get you some time off (permanent?) on any job that is "Drug Free".?ÿ
Andy
It MAY be legal but I'd be willing to bet that it will still get you some time off (permanent?) on any job that is "Drug Free".?ÿ
Andy
Quite right. Marijuana is legal here in Oregon & Washington. It isn't a particular problem. Probably less of a problem than alcohol. But it's still against federal law, and if the company has a drug free policy, you had better not get caught.
As they say in the boonies,"Farm out, maaaaaaaaaan".
Commonly spoken by a frat brother from the Alpha Phalpha Hay fraternity.
MJ: It will be federally decriminalized and legal like alcohol in less than fives years I predict. I was routinely forced to work with a guy that had his "red Card" for medical MJ and would just go rock out a 1600 shot day of topo whilst he slept in or around the truck.
On your own time, no problem.?ÿ Just like not drinking beer or whiskey while working, don't force anyone else to suffer your decisions to be a schmuck at work. Shrooms??ÿ again on your own time.
As for the the cow pie Shrooms, those are Psilocybin Coprahylla, a fairly?ÿnon-potent and slightly disgusting pick for that guy, learned that from when?ÿ I took a graduate botany course back the good ol?ÿcollege days.?ÿ And never once considered that eating cow_$hit to get high seemed fun to me at all.
Shroomin'!?ÿ ?ÿSigh.....
They taste like the fresh white round mushrooms in the market.
Throw them in ice chest and let them slosh around.
The smaller they are, the bigger the trip.
Hsve not seen a field of them in 20yrs.
Seen many people throw a sack full into one tea jug and get so sick they could not hold sny thing down for a couple days.
In 1973 my tail chainman would gobble them down as fast as he could cross path?ÿ with them and be laughing at most anything and could not hold it in and keep a straight face. Them, that is the usual reaction that I have noticed when people eat them.
A splash of a smooth whiskey is more my style.
I once made the mistake of showing one of my (slightly youthful and impressionable) employees how to identify at least one of the psilocybin varieties of 'shrooms that regularly populate cow pies certain times of the year here in Okie-Homie.?ÿ I also cautioned him there were several varieties that looked similar, but could send you?ÿon "your big last trip" if ingested.?ÿ
I found out later he began foraging and enjoying his newly honed talents...until?ÿhim and his buddies?ÿapparently got sick as hell feeding on the wrong mushrooms.?ÿ Nobody died, but he was off a few days and 'fessed up after he had recovered what had probably made him sick.?ÿ I distinctly remember him telling me "I was so sick I wanted to die so I could feel better..."
He was lucky.
Same kid was with me when we ran into a patch of wild hemp down by the river.?ÿ I told him it probably wouldn't get him high and, no, he couldn't pick any to take back with us.?ÿ A few days later he admitted to driving back out there.?ÿ He said it wasn't worth the time and gas he spent?ÿdriving back out there.
He's now a game warden for the State of Oklahoma...
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I highly recommend reading How To Change Your Mind by Michael Pollan, whether you have experience with psychedelics or not.?ÿ It's as engaging as it is educational.?ÿ Psilocybin and LSD are truly remarkable drugs.
For years I used to time my vacations in tortola with a full moon. ?ÿJust sayin'
http://www.rumtherapy.com/2012/01/bomba-surfside-shack/
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My post was not extolling the virtues of shrooms or other legalized mood altering drugs but rather how in the world are you gonna find employees who are not stoners, drunks or hallucinating.
I am generally supportive of legalized marijuana even though I have never used it but you guys in Colorado have to contend with people who just want to eat your lunch and take a nap and I have no clue what the effects of a shroom are besides hallucinations.?ÿ
Finding competent employees has got to be especially tough out there.
For years I used to time my vacations in tortola with a full moon. ?ÿJust sayin'
http://www.rumtherapy.com/2012/01/bomba-surfside-shack/
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One of my first jobs as a rear chainman I worked with a crew chief that carried a bag of seeds on his web belt and spread a few on almost every creek bottom that we crossed.?ÿ He went to Jamaica every summer for his vacation and stayed stoned for two weeks.?ÿ Several years later I heard that he was standing on a cliff top there when it caved in and he fell to his death.
Andy
back when austin actually lived up to all its marketing (and before that marketing actually originated) there used to be free concerts every wednesday night down at auditorium shores on the banks of town lake, between like march and october.
any surveyor (anywhere in the chain of command) who'd show up down there (and there were a-plenty) knew exactly what "meet me at the double oak" meant.?ÿ stood in circles that had 30 guys in them, and 30 joints going around.
useless dudes are gonna be more useless when high, no doubt.?ÿ and some productive guys aren't gonna be nearly so much when stoned.?ÿ but there are also plenty of people for whom their chemistry just works better with a little thc or shrooms in the mix (i'd guess about the same, or maybe even slightly more than the number of people- and yes, i mean this- who operate better with a steady trickle of alcohol in their system).
Had a crew on the Tenn-Tom project in the 70s that would partake of the shrooms while we were trying to work. Sometimes we didn't close on the same side of the river.
Why would anyone - who liked their work and took pride in a job well done - want to do it in an altered state?
Anyone who comes to work for me and I even think they've got a buzz on is down the road.?ÿ Do whatever you want after hours then sleep it off.
My post was not extolling the virtues of shrooms or other legalized mood altering drugs but rather how in the world are you gonna find employees who are not stoners, drunks or hallucinating.
I am generally supportive of legalized marijuana even though I have never used it but you guys in Colorado have to contend with people who just want to eat your lunch and take a nap and I have no clue what the effects of a shroom are besides hallucinations.?ÿ
I don't understand the ethics or mindset that one is not responsible to their employer for irresponsible actions and behavior during work. For me it would be one very stern warning and hit the road after the second incident. If employers or persons of responsible charge tolerate or even condone it then they own it.
I only tripped over one once in a cow pasture. I guess like all fungi the climate conditions need to be right for spores to fruit. I mentioned it to someone back at the office later that day. This was in the early 90s. I was told that back in the late 60s and 70s there?ÿ were always groups of longhair?ÿ hippie bands harvesting in that area. They said that somehow feed was introduced that contained a fungicide that stopped the widespread growth. I don't know if that was true or not. I did ask some one who would have local knowledge about it. They said that it was true that the mushrooms disappeared. He also said that back then there was a large hippie church?ÿ in the city that became legit and mushrooms?ÿ were their sacrament so there was widespread use.
Finding competent employees has got to be especially tough out there.
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Why would anyone - who liked their work and took pride in a job well done - want to do it in an altered state?
Anyone who comes to work for me and I even think they've got a buzz on is down the road.?ÿ Do whatever you want after hours then sleep it off.
Well, the point I didn??t quite make is what is ??altered? for some- or maybe even most- is ??normal? for others.?ÿ
I??m not gonna tell another grown human being how to go about their business. If you work for me, and get the job done correctly and conscientiously, I couldn??t care less what??s running in your veins. And I have shared a truck with a guy who had both an active heroin addiction and an incredible work ethic and record for getting things right. Only thing that bugged me about it was the periodic stops at gas stations to ??use the restroom.?
