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Why Don't Other GPS Manufacturers Speak Out On LightSquared?

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I hear Trimble speaking out.
I hear nothing from the rest.
Where is Leica?
Where is Topcon?
Where is Altus?
Where is Garmin?
Where is Sokkia?
Where is Magellan?
Where are the rest of them?
Are they all expecting Trimble to carry the water?
Would the message be better heard if it came from many different manufacturers?
I think so.


 
Posted : October 13, 2011 6:09 pm
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Just a half hearted response even from Trimble. After all if Lightsquared goes through, we all have to buy new equipment. Job security.


 
Posted : October 13, 2011 6:20 pm
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Simple

Because, technology always progresses and all of the affected manufactures know, that it is only a matter of time before they will have to create firmware solutions to the Light Squared problem.

Believe you this... Light Squared will happen. There are just too many heavy players that stand to make hundreds of billions of dollars.

Money talks and bullchite walks. It's very simple to read the writing on the wall.

AS3


 
Posted : October 13, 2011 6:20 pm
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My guess is that they were planning on moving toward L2C/L5 receivers anyway, and they figure this will precipitate a faster deployment of those system

That and the fact that U.S. sales decrease every year as a percentage of their market.


 
Posted : October 13, 2011 6:54 pm
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I hear through the grapevine major changes with Topcon equipment... moving to the cloud as well


 
Posted : October 13, 2011 7:06 pm

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Follow the money. Who stands to make the most, the buyer of t:-( he seller?


 
Posted : October 13, 2011 7:25 pm
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> My guess is that they were planning on moving toward L2C/L5 receivers anyway, and they figure this will precipitate a faster deployment of those system
>
> That and the fact that U.S. sales decrease every year as a percentage of their market.

For all we know the Government may want the civilians out of the market and just keep gps for military and major corporations (airlines). We may have to go back to total stations for 100% of our work.


 
Posted : October 13, 2011 7:55 pm
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> For all we know the Government may want the civilians out of the market and just keep gps for military and major corporations (airlines). We may have to go back to total stations for 100% of our work.

Sounds practical.


 
Posted : October 13, 2011 8:32 pm
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Simple

You really think firmware solutions are even practical for more than 10% of these receivers?


 
Posted : October 13, 2011 8:32 pm
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Jim, Keep looking they are out there in the mix. Garmin, Trimble, novatel, john deer and a few others are on a Technical working group that is in the midst of a second round of testing with Lightsquared picking up the tab. Im compiling a bit of info to share since so many seem to be missing bits and pieces. Problem with that is the whole issue is a chainging, moving target.
Cheers.
To Be Continued


 
Posted : October 13, 2011 10:43 pm

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Not so Simple

Thank you Gavin,
For your response and you continued support.


 
Posted : October 13, 2011 10:51 pm
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I know that other manufacturers are in the consortium and in on the testing, but I only see one holding up the banner. If more held up the banner, I think it would be better! I would like to see other manufacturers saying things about how this is all working and what it means to everyone in America. If there were 10 manufacturers each saying what needs to be said, the public would hear it better. LightSquared would have to do battle with each one rather than with only one.

I just think it is a better strategy.


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 12:23 am
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Topcon/Sokkia's statement on Lightsquared: http://www.topconpositioning.com/products/gps/lightsquared-statement


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 9:16 am
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For all we know the Government may want the civilians out of the market and just keep gps for military and major corporations (airlines). We may have to go back to total stations for 100% of our work.

Considering that the system was originally designed for military applications only with a fair amount of safeguards built in to deny the use of the system to anyone other than DOD users, it's a safe bet that the DOD doesn't really give a hoot in hell about civilan users. Weapons systems used by the DOD would not be disabled by a broadband network. In fact, it would be the broadband network that would be disabled if the gloves come off. I have seen this happen over a wide spectrum near a military instalation and rolling with an F-18. Military aircraft are already immune to interference from ALL frequencies and the major carriers will be soon if they aren't already.

A major player in the high precision gps industry has already solved the problem if you listen to what's being reported by the media (?).

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20109559-266/lightsquared-solves-gps-interference-with-new-device/?tag=mncol;txt

High precision GPS is going to be a pay to play business soon. Civilan users and small business have had cheap rent so far but the landscape is changing. Our neighborhood just went vertical.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20119551-94/lightsquareds-gps-fix-could-cost-industry-$400m/

Jim


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 9:47 am
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Jim, Well said and I totally agree. They should be more vocal and vigilant. I also feel we should be the same.;-)


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 9:48 am

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Not so Simple

> - Our lawmakers are being convinced that this plan is the answer to the rural broadband needs. Not quite. The plan calls for reaching 260M people, that could leave 50M out. Guess where those folks live? Just another boradband provider wanting to compete in the same heavily populated markets? could be the plan...

That's one of the things I noticed during the hearing and through their advertisements. They advertise that they are going to provide broadband to rural areas, then during the hearing, Mr. Carlisle says that many of the GPS receivers in use are in remote locations, nowhere near LightSquared's soon-to-be-built network. I call BS.


 
Posted : October 14, 2011 10:46 am
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I am sure that GPS surveyors will be asking for a free update
but not expecting it.


 
Posted : October 15, 2011 11:03 pm
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www.javad.com Luke! Just because you didn't hear about it doesn't mean they haven't been working on a solution or in contact with LightSquared. Actually Javad is now compatible with the signal. Trimble is not the ONLY one. Geez. Don't let your Trimble salesman let you think they are the only good receivers out there.

www.JAVAD.com
"All we ship today are LightSquared compatible or eligible for free retrofit before LightSquared launches. We also offer to retrofit our existing receivers for $300 to $800, depending on the model.

We extend our LightSquared retrofit offer to receivers made by other manufacturers as well. We offer not only to retrofit them to be LightSquared compatible; but we can also upgrade them to receive new GPS, GLONASS, and/or Galileo signals. All existing receivers that cannot track new GPS signals (L1C, L2C, L5) will soon be obsolete.

If you own a high precision GNSS receiver from another manufacturer and want to make them LightSquared compatible and/or upgrade them to receive new GPS signals fill the form below."


 
Posted : October 16, 2011 9:57 pm
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Sorry Paul, posted to your reply.


 
Posted : October 16, 2011 9:59 pm
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www.javad.com Luke! Just because you didn't hear about it doesn't mean they haven't been working on a solution or in contact with LightSquared. Actually Javad is now compatible with the signal. Trimble is not the ONLY one. Geez. Don't let your Trimble salesman let you think they are the only good receivers out there.

www.JAVAD.com
"All we ship today are LightSquared compatible or eligible for free retrofit before LightSquared launches. We also offer to retrofit our existing receivers for $300 to $800, depending on the model.

We extend our LightSquared retrofit offer to receivers made by other manufacturers as well. We offer not only to retrofit them to be LightSquared compatible; but we can also upgrade them to receive new GPS, GLONASS, and/or Galileo signals. All existing receivers that cannot track new GPS signals (L1C, L2C, L5) will soon be obsolete.

If you own a high precision GNSS receiver from another manufacturer and want to make them LightSquared compatible and/or upgrade them to receive new GPS signals fill the form below."


 
Posted : October 16, 2011 10:00 pm

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