I was thinking about the equipment being hit by traffic along with the surveyor.
My son is a manufacturing plant manager and a stickler for following safety rules. A second violation gets you fired. He's seen a case where a worker crossing a train yard didn't follow the 50-foot rule and was run over by a coal car, severing both of his legs above the knee. He also had a new assignment delayed because a maintenance guy at his new place didn't lock out - tag out a multi-blade slicing machine and was impaled and sliced when the machine started up, killing him.
Those rules are there for a purpose, often defined by much experience. A business that encourages their violation ought to be shut down.
This was actually a DOT using Federal funds, but still the same, we were constantly told that the Right-of-Way Section was always the reason for the delays in the projects, but Right-of-Way was at the behest of the landowners that we were dealing with, they would either ignore our requests, downright say no, which would force condemnation proceedings (maybe) or just take their time responding. One of my last projects the landowner was actually on his boat sailing around the world, so very hard to get in touch with, but the engineers just don't want to here it. I don't know how many times we told the designers that their design was not gonna fly with the landowners, but "Nope, that's the way it has to be." Amazing how quickly they can redesign to have it do almost exactly what we suggested in the first place. But I'm not an engineer, I just have a multitude of experience designing roads.
One of the great joys of being self-employed is being able to hang onto one system of software for as long as possible.?ÿ Switching to something different over night (such as when others change employers) is not done.
I agree. wow.that's horrible to read, and it's also not fair to the other people that were effected and affected (bring it Bovine the Pontificator) because they didn't care.
You could always come join me in Hell (as you once referred to Phoenix). Not sure of they're thinking about adding more staff, but my understanding is that we are way behind and, I think they're actually turning work away. We don't do construction, there's plenty of surveyors around here doing that, we are concentrating on ALTA's and Land Divisions.
Well gosh. now I'm being called out for my obnoxious rebuttals and quasi ad hominem endless rejoinders...
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I appreciate you actually paying attention to the responses I have posited here. We're all afflicted with similar tendencies esp of details and memories of the things we participate with.(preposition you bet)
I'm glad we can all discuss freely about safety with a modicum of humor and still keep it real and respectful, and even interesting.
I haven't been here for a Summer yet, but I can already see where it may feel like Hell.
I've been in Arizona in the summer, and also in Oklahoma. Not a whole lot different, those two. It's like being in Alaska in the winter. You spend it mostly inside. There will be an hour or so around sunrise were it is bearable.?ÿ ?ÿ
It's all a test, just one big test; and most surveyors are failing. The test is: are you willing to put up with the B---S---, and how do you handle it, diplomatically?
Here are your choices:
Stand up for your principles and don't give in until it works they way you want (this is where you use diplomacy)
Threaten to quit, if it doesn't go along with your principles
Quit, because it doesn't go along with your principles
Get fired, because you didn't want to lower yourself to their principles
You can get a lot of respect, standing up for your principles, just try not to pi$$ anyone off...
Threaten to quit, if it doesn't go along with your principles
I don't make idle threats onl]y promises
Quit, because it doesn't go along with your principles
Done this. it's not easy and painful financially
Get fired, because you didn't want to lower yourself to their principles
same.
You can get a lot of respect, standing up for your principles, just try not to pi$$ anyone off...
dont care about pissed off peoe as this is a choice they make for being proven wrong and lashing out at people reactively indicates a lack of emotional intelligence and maturity, and punctuates why it's a bad fit.
Any person on the site should be able to stop work to prevent injury or recklessness.?ÿ
While I agree, why does it seem that the laziest, slowest, most pain in the arse workers somehow become the most safety conscious, and are always more than willing to stop work, or avoid getting difficult shots, for safety reasons?
