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(@dougie)
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Got this in an email yesterday:

During the Survey Advisory Boardƒ??s spring meeting yesterday, the Auditorƒ??s Association let the board know that the Washington State legislature passed HB 1277 on April 24th. Our understanding of HB 1277 is that this will add a $100.00 fee on top of all other existing recording fees collected by the Auditor, and will affect map recordings. This was passed as an ƒ??additional revenue source for eviction prevention and housing stabilityƒ? and beginning July 1, 2021.

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This is likely not the only surprise coming from this Legislative session.

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Hoping this doesn't turn political; but what does recording a survey have to do with preventing evictions and housing stability?

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Dougie

 
Posted : 30/04/2021 9:17 am
(@spledeus)
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Every time my health insurance goes up my fees go up.

 
Posted : 30/04/2021 9:56 am
(@james-vianna)
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Well I think going "political" will answer your question

 
Posted : 30/04/2021 10:44 am
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I thought requiring surveys to be recorded was the holy grail?

 
Posted : 30/04/2021 11:08 am
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@tommy-young

It is; just shouldn't be a cash cow...

 
Posted : 30/04/2021 11:21 am
(@holy-cow)
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This is sort of a reverse on one thing our state did a few years back.?ÿ The charge for recording a mortgage had pretty much always been based on the size of the mortgage, with a minimum charge of $XX.?ÿ They kept the $XX and deleted the part based on the size of the mortgage.?ÿ This became a huge hit on the income side to operate the Register of Deeds department.?ÿ An employee, that they really needed, had to be cut and funding was diverted from other departments to make up the shortage.

 
Posted : 30/04/2021 11:24 am
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Posted by: @dougie

...but what does recording a survey have to do with preventing evictions and housing stability?

Nothing, but it's supposed to guilt trip you into not being angry about the fee.?ÿ Which, ironically, is even more insulting than the fee, imo.

 
Posted : 30/04/2021 2:28 pm
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Posted by: @bstrand

guilt trip you into not being angry about the fee

I'm not angry about the fee... well, indirectly; it's my clients that aren't going to like it. To the point of not having their property surveyed.

 
Posted : 30/04/2021 3:22 pm
(@holy-cow)
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I can't remember where it was, now, but several years ago there was a move in some state to allow courthouse workers to charge exorbitant prices to make copies.?ÿ That was squashed rather quickly when certain injured organizations demanded this go away.?ÿ Seems like it was $100 per page or $50 plus $5 per page or something else crazy.?ÿ Most places I go it ranges from free to $0.35 per page for most items and $2 to $5 for oversize copies.

 
Posted : 30/04/2021 3:34 pm
(@crashbox)
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I'll refrain from commenting since I work in the same state. I do NOT want to get banned.

 
Posted : 30/04/2021 4:28 pm
(@aliquot)
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It's hard to keep from being political when you make a political statement.?ÿ

I'll stick to commenting on surveying. $100 is to much to record a survey that isn't a subdivision. What does this make the total fees look like??ÿ

 
Posted : 30/04/2021 5:09 pm
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Take note, if you work in a non recording state.?ÿ Mandated recording should be fought wherever it rears its ugly head.?ÿ

Like many things, it appears to be a good idea, but the unintended consequences of providing bureaucrats with the means to extort PLSs outweighs the benefits.?ÿ

Plats can be recorded without a mandate.?ÿ There are not legions of surveyors in non recording states in camouflage and night vision goggles setting hidden corners.

If you currently work in a recording state and have low fees and few requirements for recording, don't worry, someone will eventually realize they can make you jump on command.?ÿ

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Posted : 01/05/2021 5:28 am
(@dougie)
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@aliquot

It was $187.50, now it will be $287.50

 
Posted : 01/05/2021 6:54 am
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@murphy

Rather than fighting recordation I think your state society ought to be fighting the fees instead.?ÿ Get title companies, developers, construction companies, and banks to help if need be.

 
Posted : 01/05/2021 7:40 am
(@holy-cow)
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Perhaps deeds should not be recorded.?ÿ Perhaps mortgages should not be recorded.?ÿ Perhaps easements should not be recorded.?ÿ Perhaps liens should not be recorded.?ÿ Perhaps the release of liens and mortgages should not be recorded.?ÿ Let's just make everything top secret.?ÿ If I say I own a certain piece of land and their are no mortgages, easements or liens, then simply believe what I'm telling you.?ÿ You have no proof otherwise.

 
Posted : 01/05/2021 7:50 am
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