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cyril-turner
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For those of you looking for an alternative to the big name provider of survey caps I have been using Mountain Mold & Die out of Sevierville, TN for my survey caps. I have been pleasantly surprised by the quickness of delivery and the quality of the caps. Another bonus is they are half the price of the other company if you buy in bulk.

 
Posted : July 30, 2020 2:11 pm
nate-the-surveyor
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Just a general comment about plastic caps. IF you will lightly spray the tops, with spray paint, it will last alot longer. Blocks the solar radiation.

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Posted : July 30, 2020 2:59 pm
field-dog
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How about acrylic clear coat spray?

 
Posted : July 30, 2020 3:31 pm
cyril-turner
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@nate-the-surveyor you could also set them just below grade. Soil does an excellent job of blocking solar radiation as well!

 
Posted : July 30, 2020 3:38 pm
hi-staker
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I've been using caps from https://bathey.com/ . Price of 0.39?› each, quick turn around, great quality, and they hold up well to Montana's extreme temperatures.

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Posted : July 30, 2020 3:56 pm

dave-lindell
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Wow!  Thirty-nine cents per hundred.

 
Posted : July 30, 2020 4:35 pm
cyril-turner
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@hi-staker the caps by MM&D are currently $0.25 if you buy 1,000. They hold up well to the Texas heat and sun.

 
Posted : July 30, 2020 4:36 pm
daniel-ralph
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Most of the PLS numbers I encounter are five digit. I wish the font that is used on the caps would put a bit more space between the digits. I looked at one today that I couldn't tell the threes from the fives or the eights. I understand that this year the newly licensed numbers will be consecutive with all other professional numbers and they they will be using eight digits.?ÿ I don't know how that is going to fit on a cap.?ÿ?ÿ

It would also be helpful if the plastic was not palatable to varmints.?ÿ

I've used Bathey for stainless washers and have been very happy with them.?ÿ

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Posted : July 30, 2020 5:06 pm
cyril-turner
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@daniel-ralph varmits are another reason I tend to set my corners just below grade. To be honest most of my corners are set on new subdivisions during the construction phase so I have my crew set them at a minimum of 6" deep to prevent them from getting knocked out by the contractors.

 
Posted : July 30, 2020 5:43 pm
RobertUSA
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@nate-the-surveyor or set slightly below the grass, and the grass will grow up to hide it more.  I found 2 plastic capped pins, set 15 years prior. They were on opposite sides of the road.  One was exposed to sun, other was just under dirt. The under dirt looked brand new, the exposed cap has the cracking on the the top.

 
Posted : July 31, 2020 9:07 pm

aliquot
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Or pay about $3 more for a metal cap. If a property curbed isn't worth enough to spend $3 more why are we surveying it??ÿ

 
Posted : August 1, 2020 10:12 am
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After noticing how many plastic caps have deteriorated I switched to metal caps. Depending on the setting, I either set the flush or sticking up a court of inches. In roads I put them below the gravel layer. I think the metal caps look more professional. Doesn't the client pay for what caps you use?

 
Posted : August 1, 2020 11:42 am
mdavis
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@skeeter1996  I had a similar experience.  I found a 30 year old metal cap in perfect condition, after being accustomed to finding cracked, split, or chewed 10 year old plastic caps.  I switched and don't foresee ever changing back.  I bumped up our prices a couple dollars for the few time & materials jobs I do.

 
Posted : August 1, 2020 12:29 pm
mike-marks
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Plastic caps don't do well in wildfire country either.

 
Posted : August 1, 2020 1:07 pm
not-my-real-name
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I started out?ÿ studying Plastics Engineering. What I found out was so vile, I dropped out to become a poet.?ÿ

Fortunately, I found Land Surveying and Civil Engineering to be more to my liking.

I use aluminum survey caps that are stamped with my name and license number.

Clients like them and they are very good looking too.

Historic boundaries and conservation efforts.

 
Posted : August 2, 2020 7:04 am

holy-cow
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From plastics engineering to poet??ÿ Did your parents immediately disown you and changes their wills to give everything to your siblings?

 
Posted : August 2, 2020 8:26 am
not-my-real-name
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@holy-cow They were great about it. However, I quickly learned I would never make any money rhyming.

Historic boundaries and conservation efforts.

 
Posted : August 2, 2020 9:46 am
hi-staker
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@dave-lindell Hahahaha! I thought they were a good price at 39¢ each!

Thanks for catching my mistake. 😉

 
Posted : August 3, 2020 11:41 am
cyril-turner
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@aliquot I like aluminum caps and use them on larger boundary surveys. However we do a lot of new subdivisions and I am already on my second order of 2,000 caps this year. The cheapest aluminum cap I can find from Berntsen is $2.26 for 500 or more, stainless steel caps from Bathey are $0.78 if you order 2k. Using aluminum caps would have cost the company an additional 8k this year (so far) and I don't think the boss or accountant would have been too happy about that.

 
Posted : August 3, 2020 4:50 pm
Larry Best
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Sometimes plastic caps last a long time. A surveyor retired and moved away 15 years before I started my business here and only used plastic caps for his last few years, so I had seen a few but they were always too sun rotted to read. One day I was looking for one of his. Lots of junk but no survey markers. As I was about to give up, I rolled over on old toilet and there it was, shiny as the day he set it 25 years ago.?ÿ

I use Bentsen Aluminum Caps. The markers and the drawings are all the customer sees. If I want to project the quality of my work, it has to look like quality.?ÿ

 
Posted : August 4, 2020 10:57 am

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