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Henry v. Mitchell

Henry v. Mitchell
Some months later, the circuit court entered the judgment amending the pleadings to conform to the proof and finding that the Henrys (seller) had committed constructive fraud when they mistakenly represented the corners of the property, the location of the well, and the access to the driveway.

These lots in White River Valley, Phase 1, Block 1 go for around $500K. Ol' Mr. Henry thought he would save a few bucks and 'flag' the corners without the aid of a Surveyor.

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Posted : June 7, 2013 7:53 am
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That was a good.

Maybe more will know enough now to get a survey done.
also I liked the 'Whitewater" lots and the Rose law Firm involvement for the political intrigue B-)

There is lake in MS which has lots for summer homes who have the same thing going on as far as boundaries and access roads to lots. They even have a 'homeowners association' that can't get a grip on it.
Corners were flagged by someone but then they started to move around at night.


 
Posted : June 7, 2013 8:21 am
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Thanks for the link, DDDSM


 
Posted : June 7, 2013 8:54 am
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I hate it when that happens.


 
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Oops.


 
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Dan

Does your Sipe Sumner Compass have a tangent lock screw?

The Sipe Sumner Compass I am using has a little hole which appears to be threaded but the screw is missing. I assume the Foresters removed it sometime in the past, I think the compass is mid 1970s vintage. I think I like my 4" K+E better in some ways and the results are just as good. That teeny red thread on the Sipe can be hard to see deep in the woods, anything red really blends into the redwood forest. The Foresters want me to use red tree paint and red flagging which sometimes disappears at 50' for me.


 
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Dave

Dave,
My W-K has both the regular ball joint and the tangent accessory. Both have a locking knob.
Take a black magic marker to the red hair.
The K-E does "settle" faster and is easier to use.

By the way, do you know anybody who repairs Wild theodolites?

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Posted : June 8, 2013 10:39 am
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Wild repairs

Try Swiss Tek in New York.

Also, North American Survey Supply Company in Philly.

I should also ask - what needs doing?


 
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Wild repairs

T1a (1957) needs the horizontal reading view in the microscope adjusted. The ticks and numbers are slid up half way into the vertical reading field.

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Posted : June 8, 2013 11:01 am
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Wild repairs

Either would be OK. Swiss Tek is probably faster, but also a little more expensive. NA Survey is probably a little cheaper, but they have been sitting on some of my toys for almost 5 months now. I have had Swiss Tek work on a couple of Kerns.

Just getting inside the instrument will mean they will both want to do a good once over of cleaning, lubing, and adjusting.

At Swiss Tek the man is Urs Reinhart.

At NA Survey the man is Bob Marron.


 
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Wild repairs

Gene Kooper knows a retired Wild tech who works on them, in Colorado I think.


 
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Dave

The needle on the Sipe I am using actually settles a little faster than the K+E. The Sipe's ball joint locks but the tangent screw is missing which makes it a little hard to get it pointed on a bearing especially in rough terrain.

I have gotten good results from both. The Sipe is a little better on steep sights.

I would take some pictures for posting but it's in my truck which is in our maintenance shop getting routine work done while I am on vacation this week.


 
Posted : June 8, 2013 12:07 pm
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Guys, If I were actually

surveying with a compass.... I would use the Ushikata.

It is hands down more accurate due to the scope and just as light and portable and it is extremely well built. It may not be as cool as the K&E or the Sipe Sumner but for accurate compass work it can not be beat.... IMHP, that is.


 
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Guys, If I were actually

I see references to a Leupold Compass in the field books (1950s & 1960s). One note says they just got it back from being repaired at K+E.

Do you know what it is?


 
Posted : June 9, 2013 7:06 am
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Guys, If I were actually

They are a well known maker of rifle scopes and for a time made small cruiser or forester compasses. Never seen one with sight vanes.


 
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Dan

Dave, if you contact Warren Knight, they probably can sell you a new locking screw for your compass. I talked to them a while back and they still sell and service the Sipe Sumner compass and have parts available.


 
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Go here for information ...

about Leupold:

http://www.surveyhistory.org/leupold1.htm


 
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Go here for information ...

Or Here


 
Posted : June 9, 2013 7:58 am
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Guys, If I were actually

> surveying with a compass.... I would use the Ushikata.

The needle on the Ushikata doesn't even look to be as long as that on a Warren-Knight Forester's Compass. If you can't read the compass needle any closer than five minutes, why is a telescope an advantage. For the price of the Ushikata (nearly $1500) I'd think a person could buy a Wild T-0.

I thought nearly $700 for the W-K Forester's Compass was outlandish, but the prices on the Ushikata and the Sumner-Sipe make it seem a bargain since it truly fits the bill as far as portability and ease of use. For running lines in the woods where the sight lines are relatively short the uncertainties tend to propagate fairly benignly. For example, a standard error of five minutes over 100 ft. is only an uncertainty (standard error) of 0.15 ft. in the offset from true line. Over fifty setups, that amounts to an uncertainty of only about SQRT(50) x 0.15 ft. = 1.1 ft., which is quite tolerable for many tasks.


 
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