I just ordered the new edition of Clark on: http://www.lexisnexis.com/store/catalog/booktemplate/productdetail.jsp?pageName=relatedProducts&prodId=7679
A bargain at $171.00 plus $26.10 shipping and handling.
I hope it lives up to its previous excellence.
$171 A bargain? $26 just for shipping? Sounds kind of steep to me.
I don't own a recent edition of that book but I have seen it, in the University of Oklahoma Law Library. It's heavy stuff, with pockets for annual updates. Serious stuff.
I have the 2nd edition. That good for me. 😉
> $171 A bargain? $26 just for shipping? Sounds kind of steep to me.
Ghilani's Elementary Surveying is in that price range, too. It's just what textbooks cost nowadays.
Me, too! :good: :good:
$26.10 is a little gouged for media mail.
2nd & 7th.
Read the 7th cover to cover before I took the licensing exam; now I probably pull out the 2nd ten times for every time I look something up in the 7th.
The Fifth led me astray but fortunately I was set right before I caused too much damage...
I guess I'm kind of in the middle, as I have only the Third and Fourth Editions plus the ICS "Fundamentals of Law For Surveyors".
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When you're charging nearly $200 for a book, I think it's time to maybe get it to the purchaser at your own expense.....Seems a little unprofessional. Kind of like buying a 50,000 gps setup, and being charged $100 for some clipon add on you need or a cable.
The Eighth Edition comes in a loose leaf binder which is cheaper than hardcover.
A new bound hardcover Seventh Edition goes starting from $250.05
This thread is somewhat dated but relevant- I have a copy of the Second Edition and am considering purchasing the Eighth Edition in looseleaf format. Just debating whether it's worth it or not... personally, I don't mind spending considerable $$ on books. However, my entire house is practically becoming a library!!!!!
The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.
SellmanA, post: 350023, member: 8564 wrote: ...am considering purchasing the Eighth Edition in looseleaf format.
I presume it is looseleaf so that replacement/update sheets can be subscribed to and the book kept perpetually current.
Not sure if the $183 entitles you to these updates or if there is an additional fee for that.
Norman Oklahoma, post: 350030, member: 9981 wrote: I presume it is looseleaf so that replacement/update sheets can be subscribed to and the book kept perpetually current.
Not sure if the $183 entitles you to these updates or if there is an additional fee for that.
Yes, that is precisely the reason for changing to a looseleaf format. Unfortunately, the $183 only covers the initial purchase and updates are an additional (but unspecified) cost. It may still be worthwhile, though. At least as long as it remains in print...
The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.
SellmanA, post: 350044, member: 8564 wrote: At least as long as it remains in print...
Not sure how Mr. Robillard's health is holding out, but I know that he is in his mid 80's and I wonder just how many revisions of Brown and Clark he has left in him. And when he does retire, just who he will pass the torch to, if anyone.
Norman Oklahoma, post: 350050, member: 9981 wrote: Not sure how Mr. Robillard's health is holding out, but I know that he is in his mid 80's and I wonder just how many revisions of Brown and Clark he has left in him. And when he does retire, just who he will pass the torch to, if anyone.
That is a good point. The surveying profession seems to be lacking in an abundance of younger blood who want to run with the writing torch; most unfortunate.
The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.
In the 7th Edition, I had to read the chapters on The Meanings of Words and Phrases Used in Descriptions and on Reading Instruments of Conveyance each twice.
My second reading confirmed what I thought I saw in my first reading. They cover essentially the same material but appear to be written by individuals with very different ideas of how the surveyor should approach his duty. One appears to be written by someone of the mind that the surveyor should gather and analyze all of the evidence, both intrinsic and extrinsic to the deed to discern the intent of the original parties and then identify the boundary accordingly.
The other author seems to be of the opinion that the surveyor is not to venture outside of the language within the four corners of the deed for any reason, is to gather all available evidence but if any of it appears to conflict with deed language in any way, simply report it as conflicting evidence. This author appears to hold the opinion that deed language is to be strictly interpreted by a rigid set of rules, that the surveyor is not to consider the effect of any extrinsic evidence, and that any such analysis is strictly for the judge as the surveyor is too simple to understand the lofty principles contained in boundary law.
Perhaps I'm reading a bit more into it than what's actually there, but the two chapters provide an interesting contrast in opinions toward the same subject matter.
eapls2708, post: 350095, member: 589 wrote: In the 7th Edition, I had to read the chapters on The Meanings of Words and Phrases Used in Descriptions and on Reading Instruments of Conveyance each twice.
My second reading confirmed what I thought I saw in my first reading. They cover essentially the same material but appear to be written by individuals with very different ideas of how the surveyor should approach his duty. One appears to be written by someone of the mind that the surveyor should gather and analyze all of the evidence, both intrinsic and extrinsic to the deed to discern the intent of the original parties and then identify the boundary accordingly.
The other author seems to be of the opinion that the surveyor is not to venture outside of the language within the four corners of the deed for any reason, is to gather all available evidence but if any of it appears to conflict with deed language in any way, simply report it as conflicting evidence. This author appears to hold the opinion that deed language is to be strictly interpreted by a rigid set of rules, that the surveyor is not to consider the effect of any extrinsic evidence, and that any such analysis is strictly for the judge as the surveyor is too simple to understand the lofty principles contained in boundary law.
Perhaps I'm reading a bit more into it than what's actually there, but the two chapters provide an interesting contrast in opinions toward the same subject matter.
I think those books are mostly obsolete. Anyone can go to the Law Library and read the law and secondary sources themselves and it can be printed to a convenient PDF that can be read in the comfort of your own home.. They don't need a book which is the law run through the mind of one lawyer from Georgia. Such a book is almost worse than useless.
Browns Boundary Control still has some usefulness as a basic discussion of types of descriptions, subdivisions and deed cuts.
Mr. Robillard will probably pass the torch to his grandson Tony Nettleman, Assistant Professor at Texan A & M, Corpus Christi. Tony has helped Walt on a couple of publications in the past. Check out his blog at : http://tonynettleman.blogspot.com/