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NotSoMuch
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@r-leonard?ÿ

That is certainly not a monument that would be set by some random person in a random location.?ÿ Also, the orange Carsonite "Survey Mark" post isn't something a layman would typically use.


 
Posted : January 11, 2022 7:33 am
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I feel fairy safe in saying that is not the original "gold plated" corner monument. Not to say it isn't the best representation of it. However I need to know what monument was present at the time the cut out parcel was first conveyed. The most spectacular mark does not always win. Also a "survey marker" post often serves as more of a red flag than anything. Kind of like "look here, don't look over there".?ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : January 11, 2022 9:09 am
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@nate-the-surveyor?ÿ ?ÿIn my youth, my friend and I were playing capture the flag on a dark and moonless night,?ÿ We decide to run full tilt deep into the enemy camp in an effort to capture the flag,?ÿ Unfortunately, my friend ran full tilt into the guy wire that held the power pole in the field (right across his chest), he was not seriously hurt, but it did leave an impression!?ÿ


 
Posted : January 11, 2022 9:57 am
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Knew a young fellow (high school age) who was running with some friends doing pranks on Halloween and caught a clothes line wire across the throat.?ÿ He survived but was well educated as to what to never do again.


 
Posted : January 11, 2022 11:07 am
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@gordon-svedberg?ÿ

See that a lot in NM from the DOT.


 
Posted : January 11, 2022 12:05 pm

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@r-leonard

Under state rules there should be a corner certificate on file with the county for the locomotive axle, if in fact it is being used as a PLSS monument. You could get a copy. It would give the history of the corner and describe when the axle was set and by whom.

Wisconsin's original PLSS corners were set starting in the early 1830s. The corner certificate would give evidence of why the axle is believed to be in the same position as the original corner, which was most likely a wood post.

I and others on this board would like to see the corner certificate, and could help explain the information it contains. If there is a gap in the history of the corner, that might be a point of interest, although it's quite unlikely to explain a 100-foot difference in the boundaries.


 
Posted : January 11, 2022 3:57 pm
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The railroad axles I am familiar with have a dimple on each end for when they go into the wheel lathe to reprofile the wheel.

I had a lead on a damaged streetcar axle that I wanted to get for a future deserving corner but it was salvaged before I took possession of it.


 
Posted : January 12, 2022 1:26 am
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I'll see what I can come up with on a certificate.

Breaking development: a 3rd survey has been done and it validates the axle as a section corner.?ÿ Meaning that this recent survey and my original survey reconcile, leaving the #2 survey/surveyor as the outlier (or outliar).?ÿ This is the guy that planted rebar 100 feet inside my property.?ÿ Wisc rules require he file/record a map within 60 days of placing monuments (didnt happen) and I'm thinking he should get fined at least $25 for the act.?ÿ I think Wisc Stats say $25 to $50 per offense.

BTW, I didnt know anything about axle dimples until I read this string.?ÿ Thanks!

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Posted : January 15, 2022 8:15 pm
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@r-leonard

1. Did you speak to this surveyor??ÿ

There are many knuckleheads with equipment who stake fence line for farmers.?ÿ Ethical or not...?ÿ It happens.

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2. Surveyors can't determine property ownership.?ÿ That's what courts do. They can trace boundaries and sometimes there are serious discrepancies that can cause issue.

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Just did a boundary for a client.?ÿ They sold off property inheritance described as lying North of this road.?ÿ Totaling 19 acres.

After survey it was 43 acres.... But since the ordered the survey after the sale... All 43 acres when for the 19 acre price.

Big discrepancy...?ÿ But ultimately hiring a surveyor first to do the research is what is needed.?ÿ If it's yours, then decide to go to court or not.

Another recent survey for a woman who for many years used her neighbors driveway to access a barn.?ÿ They got in a tiff and he put up a fence to stop her use of it.?ÿ Court ordered an easement be granted, based on her previous use.

Ownership is one thing, doesn't mean you can dictate what happens on your land.

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Posted : January 16, 2022 1:38 am
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1) did try to contact about a year ago... surveyor hung up on me.

2) that acreage disparity is a wild example - wow.


 
Posted : January 16, 2022 12:56 pm

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