1/2 survey?

Well...doesn't sound like roofing or plumbing.?ÿ I'm gonna go with yes.

I don't see how a surveyor would have begun setting monuments without having completed a large portion of the boundary field work. Perhaps if it were a parcel composed of several smaller parcels, maybe. Either way, I believe overall progress would be much higher than 25%. That point seems moot though.

That said, I think that setting monuments to represent boundary corners is indeed 'survey', regardless of the overall complete or incompleteness of the overall project. Put another way, if a engineer, realtor, attorney, or other non-surveyor decided they would set just one missing corner of a parcel, could they stand accused of surveying without a license? Absolutely.

Seems simple to me. Surveyor never installs boundary monuments when survey is only 25% complete. Scenario posited by poster is not believable. Poster has characterized this same "survey" many different ways trying to get an answer he wants to hear.?ÿ

Question: Does poster have a legitimate survey concern?

I want to know why you are asking before offering any answer. But I will say that if this is Oregon, setting even one boundary monument triggers the Record of Survey filing requirement.?ÿ

The op says he from Wisconsin, and has been re-asking in various ways about what appears to be the same situation.

The profile says licensed in WI but that seems to be incorrect.

He's in the wrong forum, asking loaded questions, attempting to elicit a response that reinforces his arguments.

I'm not sure what he wants here, but I'm seeing why the surveyor might want to avoid this job.?ÿ

When supply is limited, it makes it easier to pick and choose the work you want to do.?ÿ

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This thread is bringing back an incident that I went through at my office. A "client" set-up a meeting with me to look at a survey.?ÿ

The "client" laid out some drawings and went into a long story about the county GIS, the county road, the tax assessment, how he was being taken cause of this and that. Anyway, as I'm reviewing the documents it dawned on me that it was in Wisconsin. I stopped the meeting and explained to the "client" that I can't help him since I'm not licensed (nor do I want to be) in Wisconsin. Then he wanted my opinion about how he was being screwed over by the authorities and neighbors. I didn't know, didn't care, can't spend time finding out, it's a Wisconsin issue.?ÿ

Then he wanted to pay me for my time. I told him I can't take money for "work" in Wisconsin.?ÿ

What's the deal with Wisconsin?

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My questions have revolved around two surveys that I have experience with.?ÿ As you may appreciate, surveys can have several aspects or nuances, so it's legitimate to ask a couple different questions about the same survey...?ÿ not simply asking the same question different ways.?ÿ I'm not looking for "answers" that I can use.?ÿ I doubt a Board or Judge or Mediator will say "Oh! someone on Surveyor Connect said such and such - therefore..."

I'm simply looking for opinions from experienced professionals to inform me whether these surveys stray from accepted practice.?ÿ Like it or not, I have experience with monuments that have been installed and the surveyor has walked away from the job.

I've never been hired to relocate a boundary which seems to be the desired outcome you seek in this scenario from the beginning. I've been hired to retrace a previous survey or to be the first surveyor.?ÿ You called it an incomplete survey. Then you ask if it is a survey. It is what it is. There are no laws I know of requiring a survey to be completed.?ÿ

If I were the surveyor who for whatever reason did not complete a survey, I would have pulled anything I set, even control points.

A bar, by itself, means nothing.?ÿ I have had times where I set a bar as a turning point that would assist me in getting to the final point.

No survey was done in your case.?ÿ One was started and, apparently, stopped before qualifying as a survey.

Posted by: @bill93

The op says he from Wisconsin, and has been re-asking in various ways about what appears to be the same situation.

The profile says licensed in WI but that seems to be incorrect.

Is this the fence remnant guy?

Posted by: @dave-karoly

Is this the fence remnant guy?

The same.

@bill93?ÿ

You can be, anybody you want to be; on the Internet.

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Reminds me a bit of games played by a certain Austinite in days gone by.?ÿ Also, some of the other pseudonyms in the early days.?ÿ Flatus Grande, or something like that, was a dandy.?ÿ Nearly Normal provided entertainment along with his twisted views of the survey world.

Where is Paul Harvey when you need him? It would be nice to know the rest of the story.?ÿ

@holy-cow thank you, this is helpful and instructive.?ÿ btw, i live in the madison, wi area so if there are doubts about where i live, someone can ask an intimate question about the area and im sure i can answer.

Didn't you say earlier that both surveys were recorded??

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https://surveyorconnect.com/community/surveying-geomatics/conflict-2/paged/3/#:~:text=Report-,%40lurker%20to%20be%20clear%2C%20boundary%20surveys%20were%20done%20both%20times%20for%20Simpson%20and%20Flanders.%C2%A0%20Both%20surveys%20were%20filed.%C2%A0%20Flanders%20had%20the%20little%20extra%20mystery%20info.,-Reply

Yes he did say they were recorded. He has been asked to post them but apparently he wouldn't be able to keep up the charade if he had to reveal the facts.