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I am needing someone to assist us on a approximately 2 week long project located in Kansas.

The work will entail using a Trimble RTK equipment to stake out approximately 3000 points spread over about ten square miles. All equipment is provided as well as an ATV to get around.

Company will provide you with a motel room and will give you a cash daily food allowance.

Work days will be seven days a week and roughly 11 hour days.

Pay is negotiable and dependent on experience.


 
Posted : August 4, 2014 5:43 pm
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D,

Please e-mail me to discuss further.

pointdump (AT) gmail.com

Dave


 
Posted : August 4, 2014 6:41 pm
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That's some hard work. If I calculated right, points average a hundred yards apart and you get 3 minutes per point for travel, measurement, and staking, all day every day. Faster if you want potty breaks.


 
Posted : August 4, 2014 7:36 pm
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On average I stick 250 points a day. My best is around 450 in one day and I had to drive two hours each way to get to the jobsite. These don't have to be super accurate. Haul butt on the atv to the point (antenna mounted on atv) get within a foot, take the shot, stick a flag and on to the next one. The potential hire will not be doing this by themselves. Will have two rovers working.


 
Posted : August 4, 2014 7:53 pm
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It is indeed a demanding schedule. 300 pts/day in quad country with motor-hotel that you call home at end of day, a good gig for a 24 year old kid.


 
Posted : August 4, 2014 7:53 pm

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:good:
Pretty sure my old but ain't cut out for that pace anymore.


 
Posted : August 4, 2014 8:23 pm
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Sounds like you took a seismic job in. This should be done by a Kansas professional surveyor. It sounds easy hire a guy to drive a ATV and stake out points with GPS, but a lot of issues could come up, who owns the land, is there an easement for this tract, we need an easement etc, you gave us the coordinates in 83 we need them in 27.

Just because you have the equipment and know how to use it, doesn't mean you should.


 
Posted : August 5, 2014 7:30 am
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> Sounds like you took a seismic job in. This should be done by a Kansas professional surveyor. It sounds easy hire a guy to drive a ATV and stake out points with GPS, but a lot of issues could come up, who owns the land, is there an easement for this tract, we need an easement etc, you gave us the coordinates in 83 we need them in 27.
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> Just because you have the equipment and know how to use it, doesn't mean you should.

It is a seismic job and I am the one actually doing the seismic. I have been doing this over twenty years. I sure don't consider myself a surveyor but I have been surveying seismic for a long time not only the field work but designing the jobs etc. I am a geophysicist. In my twenty plus years of doing seismic I don't think I have ever seen a professional surveyor used. Too expensive and too slow. They tend to have a hard time not doing everything with survey level precision which is not needed for our purposes and just slows things down.


 
Posted : August 5, 2014 7:51 am
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[sarcasm]Then why do you need RTK? A hand held Garmin would provide the accuracy you seem to deem appropriate and could be obtained at the time of the data gathering.[/sarcasm]


 
Posted : August 5, 2014 8:20 am
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> [sarcasm]Then why do you need RTK? A hand held Garmin would provide the accuracy you seem to deem appropriate and could be obtained at the time of the data gathering.[/sarcasm]

The elevations are the most critical part. You need those fairly accurate (within a few feet) and that is hard to do with anything other than survey grade equipment. We have used mapping grade equipment and post processed it in the past and it works, but the accuracy can be borderline when you get too far from the cors stations.

The reality of it is no matter how precisely you place the flags the guy running the thumper truck drives by looks out his window and stops beside the flag. If he stops within ten feet of the flag it is good.


 
Posted : August 5, 2014 8:34 am

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I know pretty much what you are doing, and yes land surveyors will probably try and get it "too close".

Are you set up to keep on the 4 wheeler and not dismount? I have an engineer buddy that designs and stakes pipelines and drilling roads; he has it set up with so he stays on the seat most of the time. He stakes a lot of line.


 
Posted : August 5, 2014 8:42 am
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Sounds like neat job. I have never done any work like this.

If you are ever any closer to the Memphis area, look me up. I would love to learn something new.


 
Posted : August 5, 2014 11:50 am
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> The reality of it is no matter how precisely you place the flags the guy running the thumper truck drives by looks out his window and stops beside the flag. If he stops within ten feet of the flag it is good.

Is he in a mad rush too?

You guys be careful out there, I don't think the project or your company will be any further ahead if some kid get into trouble because of frantic pace.


 
Posted : August 5, 2014 12:28 pm
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If I had just a few less projects, this one sounds like a interesting project.


 
Posted : August 5, 2014 12:33 pm
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Drop me an email [email protected] Ive got just the guy for you


 
Posted : August 5, 2014 2:20 pm

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I agree. a good steady pace is much better.


 
Posted : August 5, 2014 2:35 pm
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How is the RTK correction being delivered? Are you using a cell phone link from a service provider or do the crews have to set up a base with a radio link?


 
Posted : August 5, 2014 9:42 pm
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> > The reality of it is no matter how precisely you place the flags the guy running the thumper truck drives by looks out his window and stops beside the flag. If he stops within ten feet of the flag it is good.
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> Is he in a mad rush too?
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> You guys be careful out there, I don't think the project or your company will be any further ahead if some kid get into trouble because of frantic pace.

No one is in a rush. It is steady work but is actually kind of laid back. I have never felt rushed. The other day I was kind of hurrying and I put out 112 points in just over an hour. 400+ in a day is busting it but 250 is a cake walk especially in wide open Kansas.

The thumper guy usually gets to 1-200 points a day. The truck is big so he cant always drive to exactly where the pin flags are. That is why the 10 foot distance. I guess you could say he is hurrying because he is always on the move but I doubt he ever goes over 10 mph.

The GPS antennas are mounted on the ATVs. The only time I get off the ATV is to open a gate or take a leak. I just drive to point, lean over and paint and stick a flag.

We set up a base. A lot of places we go are remote and no cell service.

The position has been filled. I hired a fresh college grad today that is going to work for us for the remainder of the year. His first task is going to be to learn how to run a pack. Our Kansas project won't start for a few more weeks but ten days from now my new guy will have staked out over 1000 points with me looking over his shoulder.


 
Posted : August 5, 2014 10:02 pm
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