You public land system guys crack me up

We Original 13 RULE!!!!

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I agree. I couldn't ever figure out why others did that. The lightbulb finally turned on I think. It finally hit me, that if the primary property they are describing is in the 'NE 1/4' of the section they are commencing at the NE corner of the NE1/4 of that section. I have even seen it worse when the say "beginning at the NE cor of the NE 1/4 of the NE 1/4 of sec. X".

Sometimes you work the whole thing backwards because you can't realize what corner they're at at first glance, and after working throught three or four layers of quarters of quarters, you find that they are at "the E 1/4 corner; or the Center 1/4 corner.

I think that most surveyors have simplified their method of descriptions these days, but it is nerve-wracking when you see that stuff.

There's nothing like making a complicated description out of a simple solution.

Would it make you feel more at home if it said,

"The northeast corner of the NE 1/4 as set by Milo Smith right next to the tree where his dog peed, except in winter when his dog peed in the house...."

haha!

Kevin

You laff....but I had one from back in the 40's that stated "Beginning at a point where we stood yesterday near the tree with the eagles nest". This was in Smithfield Va.

and then: thence south along the east line of said NE1/4 to the southeast corner of said NE1/4.

Because......a layman wouldn't understand what the east 1/4 corner means. So I've been told.

> Would it make you feel more at home if it said,
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> "The northeast corner of the NE 1/4 as set by Milo Smith right next to the tree where his dog peed, except in winter when his dog peed in the house...."
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> haha!
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> Kevin

Good one Mr. Slottke :good:

> and then: thence south along the east line of said NE1/4 to the southeast corner of said NE1/4.
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> Because......a layman wouldn't understand what the east 1/4 corner means. So I've been told.

Mr. Moe.....
You have to have bearings (spelled out) and distances don't you know? thence south 0 degrees 0 minutes and 0 seconds, 2,640.00 feet, along the east line of said NE1/4 to the southeast corner of said NE1/4.

Let's get that straight now....

Snoop,
Keep in mind that not all legal descriptions are written by surveyors, and that STUPID PEOPLE live everywhere.

I may be so inclined as to describe your example as the "...Common section corner to Sections 16, 9, 10, and 15....." or the NE corner of Section 16. No further.

Almost every corner established on the PLSS system has an actual name as reference in the "IDENTIFICATION OF CORNERS ON THE SUBDIVISION OF SECTION LINES" put out by the BLM. Breaks it down to a 1/1024th corner.

For example one might say the NW corner of the SW quarter of the NE quarter of Section 10..... I would try to call that corner by its actual name. The CN 1/16th corner.

Cheers

Jered:

Party-pooper.

Oh yeah, but thence south along the east line of said NE1/4 to the southeast corner of said NE1/4. would be crystal clear to the layman.;-)

For example one might say the NW corner of the SW quarter of the NE quarter of Section 10..... I would try to call that corner by its actual name. The CN 1/16th corner.

The CN 1/16th corner.....I'd give my old boss a heart attack!;-)

I've been told surveyors aren't required to write descriptions that layman would understand, they only need to be written so a competent surveyor could retrace.

Seems like the older surveyors around here have a working knowledge of the GLO identifications for interior corners. It is the Attorneys, Title People, Bankers and Land Owners who have a problem with them and are the reason it is not in common use today.
jud

Well if you don't throw as many NE,SE,SW,NWs in the description and better yet in combinations then you're just not having as much fun as you can. And in the Independent Resurvey areas you get to say FKA and add then all kinds of NEs and SWs to really make it clear!;-)

> and then: thence south along the east line of said NE1/4 to the southeast corner of said NE1/4.
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> Because......a layman wouldn't understand what the east 1/4 corner means. So I've been told.

Have you ever met a layperson that understood any part of their deed?

Well, maybe in a Colonial State........;-)

Cheers!
Radar

Actually, many of the ranchers I deal with know more than you'd ever expect.

Ditto. Most are even beginning to relearn the value of the GLO corners, even when they own all around them and in the past did not bother to keep the stone monuments out of the rock jacks. Handy pile of stones, easy filling of the jack.
jud

After about your 100th phone call explaining said corner designations, you start to think it may be worth your while to make it easier on them. I'm not saying we should, I'm just saying it gets tempting.

It was a lame attempt at a joke.......:-P

> Actually, many of the ranchers I deal with know more than you'd ever expect.

Yes, just enough to be dangerous.....;-)

Cheers,
Radar