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(@pythagorean)
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Next level pincushion.

 
Posted : 19/10/2023 7:39 am
(@holy-cow)
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There was a movie made about this type of thinking quite some time back. It was called Dumb and Dumber.

 
Posted : 19/10/2023 10:05 am
(@pythagorean)
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Can’t blame it all on the technology this survey was done in the early 80s

 
Posted : 19/10/2023 10:17 am
(@mightymoe)
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The interesting thing I see is that the survey was in the 80's and they found a BLM 1/4 corner cap within .17'. That's like finding a unicorn!!!!!

 
Posted : 19/10/2023 10:37 pm
(@richard-germiller)
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Had a guy in AK that I swear, never found a monument that he liked, just like in the instance shown original BLM monuments were always off.

 
Posted : 19/10/2023 10:54 pm
(@pythagorean)
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There’s more to the survey I didn’t show: BLM caps at every 1/16 and the center, most of which were apparently off but none of them by any more than a foot! Kudos to the BLM

 
Posted : 19/10/2023 11:09 pm
(@mightymoe)
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A BLM dependent resurvey?

The BLM must have done an accurate survey on that one. At .17' you're putting a cap up alongside the brass cap. How stupid is that?

I've rejected lots of BLM monuments, I think the closest one I rejected to the "correct" position is 25'. They have always been a "bad move" or there is a original monument still set for the corner the BLM missed.

 
Posted : 19/10/2023 11:24 pm
(@lurker)
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I'm guessing that guy repurposed one of those short school busses to be his survey vehicle.

 
Posted : 20/10/2023 1:09 am
(@rover83)
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Oh, I agree. I have seen quite a few similar surveys in my time.

Whenever I hear the screeching about "button pushers" I think to myself, "these folks didn't learn to [pincushion/fenceline survey/slap math on the ground] from their gear, they either learned it from all those folks who did it wrong before there were buttons to push, or they just never learned period." Either way it's not the tech, it's the user.

Sort of like the IT acronym PEBKAC: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair

 
Posted : 20/10/2023 6:13 am
(@norman-oklahoma)
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Please upload the entire document to the RPLS.com archive. This one should live in infamy, fully credited.

 
Posted : 20/10/2023 2:52 pm
(@mike-berry)
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Actually, the newfangled technology of EDMs in the 1970s and 1980s resulted in a lot of occurrences of this type of nonsense on surveys in my area. You were on the cutting edge of technology when you had a 10" theodolite and a top mount Red-1A as opposed to a transit and chain, so your new-school measurements trumped all those old-school ones, right? Hereabouts these types of calls on surveys faded away after a decade or two.

 
Posted : 25/10/2023 8:31 am
(@mightymoe)
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that the rejector didn't set a monument. And if you go out and do some really tight GPS measurements his survey isn't anymore accurate than that 0.17' he claims the 1/4 corner is off. Just a wild guess.

 
Posted : 25/10/2023 10:05 pm
(@pythagorean)
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I surely would if only I didn't know the man personally

 
Posted : 28/10/2023 6:04 am
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