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(@williwaw)
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James Fleming, post: 409088, member: 136 wrote: I too concur with the divine bovine and others; whatever it was in it's prior life - axle, drive shaft, etc. it is that no longer. Those items are defined by the character of their use rather than their material nature. It's now a hunk of metal and grout that occupies the position of a property corner...it's a 2 1/4" diameter metal and grout monument.

I concur. It is what it is. Just up for me to describe it in my notes. I like to code things in the DC, i.e. 'FR5' for a 5/8" rebar and so on. Think I coded this F2(1IP)IP, but if it turned out this was actually a Berglschrutz monument and only a rookie wouldnt know that, well I certainly desire to be relieved of my ignorance. Alas after 20 years of doing this I remain a rookie, but I guess that's better than a cynical know it all that can deduce a goat stake from a time honored corner by just looking at a photo. Maybe in another 20 years I'll get there, but good gawd I hope not.

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 9:00 am
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Part of why I mention that is because we have had numerous discussions here as to what exactly does a boat spike look like , or is it a cotton spindle or a cotton gin spindle or a cotton picker gear, or just by looking at the head of it how do you know if it's a 40d or 60d.

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 9:05 am
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Squirltech, post: 408952, member: 11959 wrote: I'm going to guess that it's an axle, or at least part of one.

That was my thinking as well.

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 9:10 am
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Williwaw, post: 409092, member: 7066 wrote: I concur. It is what it is...

Some folks around here would call it a found mon...

Some; but not all :innocent:

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 9:58 am
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Holy Cow, post: 409080, member: 50 wrote: Concur with those suggesting you describe what you see. The problem with finding a correct name for such a thing does not mean that anyone else has any idea what that means. Saying you found a burmuzler doesn't help anyone.

I have worked in areas where the final maps called out found or set "city standard xx-xx monument". Always bugged me, because who would know what the standard was if you are not from the area and familiar with the standards, exspecially in the field when one would be searching. A final map should stand alone, usually. Also I don't think most surveyors would want to call to mons that way. It sounds like a agency map checkers review comment. Jp

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 10:30 am
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Williwaw, post: 408945, member: 7066 wrote: ......Appears to be a 2 1/4" iron/steel shaft with what appears to be a 1" I.P. either welded or cast into the main shaft and looks like it might have been filled with grout. Appears if there was a cap on it at one time but was sheered off....

I'd say that it is what it appears to be. A 2" iron pipe with (formerly) capped smaller pipe grouted inside it. It may be that the smaller pipe and cap was added long after the larger pipe was first set. I've seen this sort of thing documented.

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 10:40 am
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RADAR, post: 409108, member: 413 wrote: Some folks around here would call it a found mon...

Some; but not all :innocent:

Too wordy.

IPF

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 10:54 am
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On the same topic, I think mon descriptions are typically not as descriptive as they should be in a lot of cases. Typically crappy mon descriptions go with crappy measurements which leaves the retracing surveyor wondering if he found the same mon. 😳 Jp

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 10:55 am
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Williwaw, post: 408945, member: 7066 wrote:
Recovered a center quarter corner yesterday. I'm not certain to the pedigree and was a bit stumped as how to describe in notes. Never seen one quite like it before. Appears to be a 2 1/4" iron/steel shaft with what appears to be a 1" I.P. either welded or cast into the main shaft and looks like it might have been filled with grout. Appears if there was a cap on it at one time but was sheered off. Very stout monument. In any case I've never seen one like it before. My best guess is it was set some time in the '60s-'70s? Anybody out there know what it is? Maybe a drive shaft of some sort?

Could it be an old rusted-off chain-link fence post?

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 2:00 pm
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Jp7191, post: 409130, member: 1617 wrote: On the same topic, I think mon descriptions are typically not as descriptive as they should be in a lot of cases. Typically crappy mon descriptions go with crappy measurements which leaves the retracing surveyor wondering if he found the same mon. 😳 Jp

I think my favorite mon desc. Is: "Fd magnetic zing in pavement".
🙂

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 3:35 pm
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Dont forget thr FIP and SIP!
minnimalistic surveying, at its best!

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 5:29 pm
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