What type of monument is it.

I'm going to guess that it's an axle, or at least part of one.

A drive shaft would be solid, not filled with grout. My guess is it is a steam union collar flange fitting.

Paul in PA

Go to Ezekiel. It's that elusive "Wheel within a wheel".

🙂

Not being able to get a set of fingers on it, I'll throw out the guess, is it maybe a 1" pipe set in concrete inside the 2 1/4" pipe? I know you say it appears welded, but I'm chunking ideas here.

Monte, post: 408974, member: 11913 wrote: Not being able to get a set of fingers on it, I'll throw out the guess, is it maybe a 1" pipe set in concrete inside the 2 1/4" pipe? I know you say it appears welded, but I'm chunking ideas here.

That's what I'd call it. 😉

During the Alaskan Gold Rush, of the 1896-1899, all kinds of schemes were hatched to extract GOLD from them thar hills.
ALL kinds of "Stuff" was left behind, from this event. I think there was alot of scrap metal left up there. And, that scrap metal, BECAME survey monuments, as needed.
So, my "creature of last resort" is to "Literally Describe" a monument.
My instinct would be to dig around that "Thing" you have above, and concoct a description.
Something like "found 1-3/4" dia steel pipe, with concrete inside, and a 3/4" steel pipe, centered inside, all filled with concrete"
This way, ANY other later surveyor who comes your way, will have an ACTUAL description of it.

Thus, a Rebar is:
"found 1/2" dia, steel shaft, with ribs, spaced in a regular hatch pattern, and protruding 2" above a mossy covered forest floor"

I am writing that, to describe how a non initiate to rebar, would apply the principle.

If I PULL the monument, then I also get it's length, and any other descriptive items.

I did one one time that was about like this:

"Found 3/4" pipe, with street elbow on top, and pounded so that top shows indentations."

This makes my "find" into a part of the record, and individualizes the monument alot.

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Monte, post: 408974, member: 11913 wrote: Not being able to get a set of fingers on it, I'll throw out the guess, is it maybe a 1" pipe set in concrete inside the 2 1/4" pipe? I know you say it appears welded, but I'm chunking ideas here.

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That was my original assumption until I used a rock hammer to try cleaning it up and found the base to be solid metal, not filled pipe, which led me to suspect a drive shaft, but the 1" pipe on top had bit of grout in it which is more akin to what GLO set early in the century. Got me curious. At -16F I'm not about to try chipping it out any deeper.

It's a pink flag holder.

What is it called in the document that you used to determine it to be recovered?

I had copies of a local surveyors notes from 1937 and he called for wine bottle 2' below grade with a tack in the cork at the radius point of a cul-de-sac. After some very careful digging it was there. (Did not check to see if bottle was full though :D:D)

Call it what it is...

2 1/4" dia. steel monument w/protruding 1" dia. steel top.

It looks like it may be a portion of an old driveshaft. They were fairly flimsy things in the early days.

It's a goat stake, not a monument, rookie.

ropestretcher, post: 408996, member: 2059 wrote: What is it called in the document that you used to determine it to be recovered?

Whoever set the center 1/4 didn't leave a record, not that I've found anyway. Fairly common around here with survey work done in the 50's-70's. I have several plats and records of survey that accepted it going back to the early 1980s and as recently as last year. Some call it a found 2" IP, though it is not. I haven't broken down the section to determine how close to perfect the position is, but it's apparently been long accepted, I just don't know what it is, but suspect something salvaged from a bone yard, which was common practice at the time, or some kind of unique bomb proof monument that just never caught on like a 'copperweld' or a 'Grizzly'. I don't know if 'Grizzly' were ever used anywhere but here, but a 'Griz' is a small 1/2" wide angle iron that originally came with a small plastic button cap. Rarely find the caps as the plastic just didn't hold up. See a few of those on older 70's subdivisions.

TJE Yogi, post: 409008, member: 963 wrote: It's a goat stake, not a monument, rookie.

Thanks. Very helpful.

TJE Yogi, post: 409008, member: 963 wrote: It's a goat stake, not a monument, rookie.

Goat stakes weren't generally grouted. Possibly just a dog stake...a lot lower on the "order of calls" hierarchy...;)

Concur with those suggesting you describe what you see. The problem with finding a correct name for such a thing does not mean that anyone else has any idea what that means. Saying you found a burmuzler doesn't help anyone.

I must concur with Holy Cow and admit that I am not seeing enough of the object.

That could be a roller bearing around a pipe.
It could be a small perforated pipe inside a larger pipe, aka spark resistor muffler or silencer
It could be the remains of a government monument
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I too concur with the divine bovine and others; whatever it was in it's prior life - axle, drive shaft, etc. it is that no longer. Those items are defined by the character of their use rather than their material nature. It's now a hunk of metal and grout that occupies the position of a property corner...it's a 2 1/4" diameter metal and grout monument.

Describe it as you wish and if you don't find any contradictory evidence I would call it good. 😎