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We recently send a contractor a point list via email. He replied with the following:

>I am unable to open ASC files. Please send the file in pdf format. My fax number is below if you need to send it that way.

I just don't know how to respond to that.


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 2:25 pm
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:beer:


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 2:27 pm
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Why not convert your ASCII file into an Adobe file? Or fax it to him? I’m trying to figure out your point.


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 2:32 pm
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Don't forget to compress the file. Haha


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 2:35 pm
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Maybe fax him a print out. Sometimes it's easier to make it idiot proof. lol


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 2:42 pm

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We had exactly the same response from an attorney to whom we sent a .TXT file.....

"Morons! I've got morons on my team!!"


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 2:45 pm
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I don't see the problem....is the guy's checks cashing?


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 2:48 pm
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Posted : October 27, 2011 2:49 pm
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What's the next question?

"You marked 5 feet and 38 inches on this stake, you need to come fix it."

Or maybe, "My roller wheel says all these building corners are wrong."

I mean seriously, I don't know that Bill Gates has EVERY produced an operating system that wouldn't open an ascii file. If are dealing with point files and you have no idea what an ascii file is, maybe you shouldn't be dealing with them at all, electronic or faxed.


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 3:02 pm
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I sure wouldn't fault anyone for being computer illiterate, even in this age. I really doubt the guy is a complete idiot.


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 3:11 pm

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Tommy-

Is he smart enough to write his name on a cheque ?

Now you know your option IMVHO.

YOS

DGG


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 3:34 pm
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> If are dealing with point files and you have no idea what an ascii file is, maybe you shouldn't be dealing with them at all, electronic or faxed.

I couldn't agree more Tommy.


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 3:36 pm
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architurkies too

I once did the field work for an architurky and he was going to do the CAD work. I sent him the NEZD file and sketch of the site. The site was small, but had some slopes, trees, a curb cut. No survey was required for permits, but he wanted to know where the stuff was to position the house and how to deal with retaining walls for a walk out basement. I'd done other work with the guy, and he seemed ok. He just wanted to keep fees down for the owner.

He got it all drawn up and was pleased as heck. I asked him if I could look at it to see any hiccups (just in case).

He imported the coordinates as ENZD and blindly proceeded without looking at my sketch. What a mess. I sure am glad I asked to review it, before he got into design.

Now when I do just the field work for other design professionals, I provide them with a base CAD map with all the dots connected, contours, etc.


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 3:56 pm
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architurkies too

:-O


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 4:36 pm
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Me too. Could not open a plain text file.


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 5:25 pm

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Uh, maybe you should be working for this guy.

> We recently send a contractor a point list via email. He replied with the following:
>
> >I am unable to open ASC files. Please send the file in pdf format. My fax number is below if you need to send it that way.
>
> I just don't know how to respond to that.

Well, in a non-condescending manner just ask him to double click the file and it will open, thats what I would do.


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 5:32 pm
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Change .ASC to .TXT And Send It Back

Windoze should be able to figure it out for him.

Windoze is designed to open a .txt file in Notepad or Wordpad. Opening a .asc file requires some Windoze training. The first time I had to open a .asc file Windoze was dumb so I told it to use SMI, which it has used automatically ever since.

It is also neccessary to train Windoze to open a RINEX file. Every January I have to reinstruct it to use Wordpad again because the .10o increments to .11o and so on.

BTW, after editing a RINEX file, ocassionally Windoze renames it .11o.txt. I found out accidentally that OPUS will take a file named like that without questioning.

Paul in PA


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 7:04 pm
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Change .ASC to .TXT And Send It Back

His Windows OS probably won't recognize an .ASC extension automatically. I normally export point files with comma separators, and put a .csv extension on it. Excel will automatically handle that extension and most people in business have MS Office.


 
Posted : October 27, 2011 7:14 pm