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Trimble Access for Conventional Surveying???

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Frank Willis
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We are faced with having to upgrade our data collectors from Survey Pro to the TCS3 with either Survey Pro or Trimble Access.

Questions... Is Trimble Access as streamline as Survey Pro for:

Entering manual cogo traverses with bearing and distance?

Rotating and translating?

Simple topo RTK data collection such as a topo survey of stock piles or terrain?

Does it have autocollect that will cause it to collect an rtk point based upon time or distance?

Bugs?

Is the camera any good?

Does the S6 work faster with it?


 
Posted : November 25, 2014 7:14 am
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If you are used to Survey Pro I would stick with it. I do know the rotating options in Access are not as good as Survey Pro.


 
Posted : November 25, 2014 8:05 am
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Access has its pros and cons... A lot of the useful functions that are in plain view in SurveyPro are buried deep in menus in Access. Take Inverse Point to Line for instance: You can only get to it from an obscure button in the calculator, a total of 5 clicks I believe. If I remember correctly, SurveyPro took two clicks to get to Point to Line.
Quite frankly, I miss Survey Pro. :'(


 
Posted : November 25, 2014 8:16 am
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It would be nice if Access would remember entered codes like the old TDS Survey Pro and SurvCE that I used to use.

I use Access. I mostly use it just to turn angles and collect topo, not much cogo, it works fine for that.


 
Posted : November 25, 2014 9:04 am
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It works great if you read the manual. You can create shortcuts to the functions you use most often (such as point to line). Which dealer are you buying it from?


 
Posted : November 25, 2014 9:33 am

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I use both. If you're running an S6, Access is the way to go. Learning curve definitely but a joy to drive once you get it down. Keep the manual in the truck.


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : November 25, 2014 10:49 am
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You can do it Access with 0. Go to Point Manager. Hit Display and check Station and offset and up will pop a screen where you enter the two points defining your line. In point manager all of your points will be shown as station and offset to the line you've defined.


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : November 25, 2014 10:53 am
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All 3 crews at our company run a Trimble S6 and Trimble Access on a TSC3, and they have worked out really well for us so far. We have had reservations about our field guys adapting to the different/more advanced equipment. There were times when that didn't work well in the past. 2+ years ago all our crews used a TDS Recon/SurveyPro with Topcon GTS total station, and a Trimble TSC2 with our Trimble receiver. I didn't like the idea of having 2 data collectors and the issues that can go along with that. So, for us, I knew moving everything to Trimble would be an easier transition because they were somewhat familiar with the SurveyController or Access interface on the TSC2.
I do know that a couple of the guys have mentioned that Access has a couple less COGO functions than SurveyPro, but I don't remember what specifically. All the basic COGO functions are fairly straightforward. When I was in the field, I had no problem creating points with angle and distance information, and no problem with rotating and translating. The continuous topo measuring option is very simple to use with the GPS or the robot. It can be set to shoot based on time, distance, or a combination of both. I use it all the time with our ATV and our echosounder. I think it has like a 5MP camera on it. It serves its purpose well enough, and Trimble Business Center offers some fascinating ways to integrate the pictures.
I moved around a bit while my wife was in graduate school and worked for a few different companies around the country, so I've used many combinations of instruments and collectors. The S6 and TSC3 is my favorite one. The S6 is amazing at staying locked onto the multitrack prism.


 
Posted : November 25, 2014 4:36 pm
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You can actually ahve them both loaded on one unit (only the TSC3 not the TSC2)


 
Posted : November 25, 2014 8:45 pm
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If using a vision system Access is the only way to go

If you are looking at the R10 (and you should) Access is the only SW that will run it.

Survey Pro is a generic program that will operate most robots but it is not designed to get the full functionality out of Trimble S-series vision or advanced GPS systems.

There is much more to consider than the actual way Survey Pro VS Access achieves the same result.

I sell them both and hands down, Access is better for most of my customers applications.


 
Posted : November 27, 2014 1:21 pm