Traverse closure?> Larry, Whatchusay?
> The error of closure can depend on where you start your calculations? That just doesn't make sense to me...
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> Dtp
It's true, though.
Stephen
I will guarantee that turning one or two sets of four to each monument and traverse point will take much less time than returning to the field and doing it over to find your error.
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Easy to point fingers Gentlemen..
But keep in mind that one you point a finger at someones mistake, yes he should have turned two angles+, 3 more fingers are pointing back at you.
We've all made blunders, I know I'd be at the top of the list myself. Lesson in this for all of us.
Easy to point fingers Gentlemen..
Joe,
I have to agree with you. We have all made those decisions while in the field that we wish we would have chosen differently.
It could have been a long hot day, pressure to arrive at another jobsite, pressure from bosses to meet a production quota, rushing to make it to a meeting. We don't know ALL the reasons for the reason the Original Poster made the decision that he did.
This can and will be an experience that he can take, and learn from it, and become a better surveyor. He can take this lesson, and modify his field procedures, and do a little better next time.
None of us are perfect, and I would venture to guess that we all have looked back at a survey that we performed years ago, and there is something that you would do differently if you could do it over again. Hindsight is 20/20.
The most important thing is that we all learn something from him being bold enough to post his experience, and ask questions. I appreciate that, personally.
My humble opinion,
Jimmy
i understand the joys of curt expressionism, but I can only think of the simple phrase: you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar, but dead squirrels get the most.
I disagree about the RTK comment. If he is having problems with conventional total station traversing and error propagation, he is nowhere near ready for RTK.
> I have not summed the angles yet.
Has this been done yet? If there is only one bad angle, the perpendicular bisector trick will point to it as Spledeus mentioned.
Easy to point fingers Gentlemen..
I agree. I think the poster can realize three thing from his experience.
1. Take the time to wind a few reps on control points. With DCs,it doesn't take any extra significant time.
2. Rememeber that scheduling and other pressures should not be a factor for cutting any cornetrs in the field.
and 3. adhere to good traverse practices in both geometry and station setting and of course this is skill developed through experience and a little luck at times.
Easy to point fingers Gentlemen..
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Easy to point fingers Gentlemen..
well...okay, you can call it "finger-pointing" as you wish. I certainly have made mistakes. But I thought the guy posted on a open web-site looking for getting his questions answered. I would assume he would have expected, and been braced, for people posting where he probably went wrong. (and all that probably wisdom gained from experience). Except for a couple of posts that sounded a little harsh, how would you expect seasoned surveyors to respond? (or am I pointing some fingers back at you?)