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(@mightymoe)
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If you want it that cheap, then an alidade table will do it. You would need a helper

 
Posted : 15/05/2018 6:04 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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OMG!!!

 
Posted : 15/05/2018 6:23 pm
(@a-harris)
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Couple of acres topo

I'd use reflectorless TS, lath stacked at same height, small prismatic targets, mow the place if needed and hope it doesn't need more and collect the data.

Your locating this in relation to actual elevations being used will be another project.

 
Posted : 15/05/2018 6:24 pm
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Posted by: MightyMoe

If you want it that cheap, then an alidade table will do it. You would need a helper

Not necessarily...

You could prop the rod up; walk back; read it; write it down; walk back and move the rod; walk back; read the rod; write it down; repeat until the topo's done.

There's a fine line between efficiency and cost effectiveness.

 
Posted : 15/05/2018 6:28 pm
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I would use TS and data recorder, and find a casual worker to hold the pole.?ÿ

At 2 acres ?ÿsoon cover even more complex jobs efficiently and effectively.

You would be able to direct ?ÿproceedings and with a bit of nous your offsider would soon learn the ropes.

Only starts to get complicated if you need specific datums that need carting onto the job somehow. The 'somehow' is where you may well find it difficult with just a TS.

Remember to leave some decent control about as one will no doubt need for another day.?ÿ

 
Posted : 15/05/2018 7:23 pm
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The possibilities are vast depending on the terrain, the development and the level of accuracy you are requiring for your project.?ÿ

If your engineering projects are parking lots, heck even a drone would work for the topo, if it is a industrial plant site, then you might need everything in a fully equipped surveyors toolbox.

If I were in your shoes, I would do two things. Firstly, find yourself an experienced survey technician willing assist you for the occasional weekend.?ÿ

Secondly, establish a relationship with a survey equipment rental company.

The survey tech will be able to get you up and running with the rental software and offer insight into the best equipment to be rented for each project.

Rental rates of $150/day, are certainly cheaper that $15000 for a decent used robotic setup. It would take 10 years of projects to break even with owning vs renting, which should actually be a wash as you would bill your client for the rental rates.

Best of luck,

Justin

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Posted : 15/05/2018 9:01 pm
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The possibilities are vast depending on the terrain, the development and the level of accuracy you are requiring for your project.?ÿ

If your engineering projects are parking lots, heck even a drone would work for the topo, if it is a industrial plant site, then you might need everything in a fully equipped surveyors toolbox.

If I were in your shoes, I would do two things. Firstly, find yourself an experienced survey technician willing assist you for the occasional weekend.?ÿ

Secondly, establish a relationship with a survey equipment rental company.

The survey tech will be able to get you up and running with the rental software and offer insight into the best equipment to be rented for each project.

Rental rates of $150/day, are certainly cheaper that $15000 for a decent used robotic setup. It would take 10 years of projects to break even with owning vs renting, which should actually be a wash as you would bill your client for the rental rates.

Best of luck,

Justin

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Posted : 15/05/2018 9:01 pm
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If your engineering projects are parking lots, heck even a drone would work for the topo....

Except for the need to set out control for the photography.

Rental rates of $150/day, are certainly cheaper that $15000 for a decent used robotic setup.

Good idea. Rent, don't buy.

 
Posted : 15/05/2018 9:07 pm
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I have staked foundations in the NC mountains. Don't do it yourself. Add the cost of the survey to your total price and explain to your client that even though they may only have spent $350 for a survey of their land in Florida, $1000 is what it costs in the mountains. That said, if you get your surveyor a good CAD drawing of the foundation and have them stake only the footer, you might be able to get them to drop the price a touch. Pinning the foundation corners on the footer always took me longer than staking the footer.?ÿ

 
Posted : 16/05/2018 2:30 am
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If you only need the equipment for a few days a month and know in advance when it is required, rental would be the way to go.

Leica Geosystems has survey equipment (total stations/GNSS for survey and construction and GIS/GNSS equipment) available on their rental site: www.lgsrents.com.?ÿ

Once you get the credit app completed, you can rent equipment quite easily.?ÿ

 
Posted : 16/05/2018 3:39 am
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That is why I recommend the simplest form to get the job done. ?ÿMany times the job necessities are far simpler than what we have the capability to do because we tackle far tougher jobs. ?ÿSometimes all it takes to tighten an 11/16 nut is a pair of pliers.

If you only need autocad once per month, why pay for it?

 
Posted : 16/05/2018 3:55 am
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Be careful. Some states require a licensed surveyor if topos are tied to the earth, like for design.?ÿ

 
Posted : 16/05/2018 8:33 am
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Posted by: M.McBride

Be careful. Some states require a licensed surveyor if topos are tied to the earth, like for design.?ÿ

The big money is in the topos that aren't tied to the earth....with them floating around up there you are always getting paid to update the location as they drift around.

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Sorry...sometimes I just cant resist.?ÿ ??ÿ

 
Posted : 16/05/2018 8:46 am
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Posted by: holy cow

For nearly flat one-acre open lots all you really need is a level, steel tape, grid layout, pen, paper and a pocket calculator. ?ÿNo high-dollar autocad seat and everything that goes with it.

That's just good sense. It seems to me if you're the engineer, you're likely ahead of the curve in that, you already likely know; the soil type, and permeability, you can see the grade and flow on site, identify barriers and any local drainage system or structures.?ÿ

If it gets too easy you could increase your utilization rate and difficulty level by emailing yourself with an endless number of questions. ?ÿ

 
Posted : 16/05/2018 9:26 am
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North Carolina is one of those states.?ÿ?ÿ http://www.ncbels.org/Policies/EngSurBP-1005-3Rev%203.pdf

 
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