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@true-corner

...but a curve isn't a straight line.?ÿ

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Posted : September 16, 2020 12:31 pm
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For all of you that insist on A, what do you do when you have very heavy angles? Do you show areas hundreds of feet from the corner as being within the offset area?????ÿ

The right answer depends on exactly how the ordinance is worded.

Don't let planning departments bully you into a devotion for straight lines when common sense AND the language of the regulation beg for curves.?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : September 16, 2020 12:47 pm
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I've argued situation B to several planners over the years and have always ultimately prevailed.?ÿ In fact I got one of them to issue a directors rule regarding this issue whereby the minimum setback shall be measured parallel with and at a consistent distance from the line. Be it a lot line, easement, or buffer line.?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : September 16, 2020 3:21 pm
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Anyone following the "stob" thread will note how the easements and setbacks are shown on that survey.?ÿ The straights sides are offset as straight and the curved side has a curved offset as there is no other choice.?ÿ The acute angles involved dictate the straight method.

 
Posted : September 16, 2020 5:29 pm
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@aliquot, a curve is a series of straight lines...Touche!

 
Posted : September 16, 2020 7:21 pm
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@aliquot

A straight line is a curve with a radius of infinity.

 
Posted : September 16, 2020 7:29 pm
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Well I've been lurking on this thread and appreciate all of the replies.?ÿ I think it's safe to say there is no consensus and it's been entertaining as well.

I believe the first time I felt compelled to utilize Option B was way back when in my informative years when I was depicting the 100' buffer to a location of a flagged wetland.?ÿ Some of those angles were quite acute and I felt a 100' buffer was just that and should never exceed 100'.?ÿ Option A would have been very intrusive to the property in ways that did not seem intended.?ÿ And yes it was a lot of extra work to create all of the arcs at the time.

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Finger Lakes Region, Upstate New York

 
Posted : September 17, 2020 2:25 am
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@dms330

Here's one example:

If it's put on the subdivision plat that would make it definitive.?ÿ

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Posted : September 17, 2020 6:05 am
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@true-corner

as the length of any curve segment gets approaches zero it will still be curved, until it reaches zero, and then it will be a point. ????

 
Posted : September 17, 2020 12:54 pm
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@richard-imrie

So you are saying a curve is a curve is a curve, right?

 
Posted : September 17, 2020 12:55 pm
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I use B.

 
Posted : September 18, 2020 11:34 am
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@mightymoe

Looks good, but I wouldn't put it on the Subdivision plat. Zoning ordinances and there interpretations change all the time. If the new zoning rules/interpretations are less rest restricted some grumpy neighboor is going to insist on holding the Subdivision plat setback.?ÿ

 
Posted : September 19, 2020 7:08 am
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@aliquot

I've not seen zoning get that far into the details of offsets for utility easements or setback lines. If it gets on the plat and is signed by the city/county it's over at that point. For unplatted setback lines I wouldn't hesitate to curve them. But we don't have regulators that strident. I can't think of a time it's come up however, that would be an unusual sideline angle for a house layout

 
Posted : September 19, 2020 11:31 am
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