I wonder if it it's ever the case where it's illegal to obliterate the mark on the tree, but totally legal to chop down the tree.
The state of Tennessee must be flush if it's spending tax dollars on this kind of stuff.
There's often a hellofalot more than meets the eye to a situation.
Perhaps TN is like SC in that it is a 3 x's damages state where the cutting of timber is concerned. Is it not our job as Surveyors to protect the public? This kind of marking isn't happening on 1 acre tracts......
I have a 400+ acre timber tract looming on the horizon, I'll get take some offending photos for the "that's ugly" crowd B-)
I agree with Steve Corley's post, Monument the line at the enterance and exit of the property and do whatever the client requests in the interior Sooner or later something will be constructed obliteratiing the trees anyway. B-)
Rankin_File, post: 361949, member: 101 wrote: The state of Tennessee must be flush if it's spending tax dollars on this kind of stuff.
Every tract they buy requires a survey, which requires all lines to be painted, and any lines joining state property must be blacked out.
I've gone to the expense of painting my boundaries with Posting Purple paint which is the legal way to post property in the State of Texas and no signs needed.
Anyone that comes along and attempts to paint another color over that to unpost my land is gonna be in for a fight they don't want.
They might get away with painting their trees black.
They don't have the right to paint my trees black.
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P_Bob, post: 361804, member: 1570 wrote: but any surveyor should be able to follow old blazes, even when not painted.
I've never even seen a blaze
A Harris, post: 362321, member: 81 wrote: I've gone to the expense of painting my boundaries with Posting Purple paint which is the legal way to post property in the State of Texas and no signs needed.
Anyone that comes along and attempts to paint another color over that to unpost my land is gonna be in for a fight they don't want.
They might get away with painting their trees black.
They don't have the right to paint my trees black.
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That's good to know, but that isn't what's going on here. No exterior line is being blacked out.
Rich., post: 362384, member: 10450 wrote: I've never even seen a blaze
OK, let me rephrase that. Any surveyor that lives in an area that blazes are common should be able to follow a blazed line, even if painted over. It is only getting rid of the orange paint, that would of eventually disappeared if not repainted.
Blazing up here is common, and the scars last as long as the tree.
Tommy
Be sure and use flat black because any glossy paint will show up when hit with light.
I am in the middle of timber country and the larger owners have their own color of paint and the common boundaries can get rather colorful after a sale of property. The main colors are: DOT reflective yellow, barn red (my favorite), posting purple, orange, white and blue.
P_Bob, post: 362445, member: 1570 wrote: OK, let me rephrase that. Any surveyor that lives in an area that blazes are common should be able to follow a blazed line, even if painted over. It is only getting rid of the orange paint, that would of eventually disappeared if not repainted.
Blazing up here is common, and the scars last as long as the tree.
ÛÏScars looking very much like blaze marks may be formed on trees from natural causes, while it must be remembered that a small boy with a hatchet can mark up more trees in one Saturday afternoon than a dozen surveyors can in a year.
In general, blaze marks are to be regarded as suggestive and corroborative rather than determinative. They may suggest that the line runs in a place where you did not expect it and a subsequent study of the records may entirely confirm this. Or in a case where it has been necessary to render a decision on meager evidence, the finding of blaze marks may confirm the decision. But, in general practice, to render a definite opinion on the evidence of a few rather obscure blaze marks is, to say the least, rash. It must, however, be clearly understood that these remarks do not refer to the government blaze marks on public lands, these being clearly and carefully made. These remarks apply only to the cases met within ordinary country surveying.Û ÛÒ Page 28, Boundaries and Landmarks, Alfred Cornell Mulford, 1912.
DDSM:woot:
I work in the Chickasaw Meridian area in Northeast Mississippi. I am interested in the Chickasaw initial point, myself. I live in T12S, R4E in Chickasaw County.
Years ago, the Mississippi Association of Land Surveyors along with the GLO and BLM representatives recovered and monumented the Choctaw Initial Point down in Cohoma County near Jackson. See the link further up this post. http://www.pmproject.org/Choctaw.htm&apos ;">Choctaw MDOT now has a "pullover" and a historical marker along with a trail leading uphill to the monument. I worked a full day on this as a part of a BLM workshop. It was fascinating and very informative.
Painted hack with flagging (you can see old paint at the top).....
Witness trees with hacks at heights that reference the distance from the corner...
Here's a couple more on a boundary marking project I'm currently working on....
I know it may not look like much to some of y'all, but I find the old old hacks with flagging remnants and old hacks marking line location to be a Godsend. Gives some pretty good meaning to "following in the footsteps", does it not?
P.S. preliminary work on this 400 acres made for a long day so I stopped by a local BBQ joint and grabbed half a chicken for the ride home.....
