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Does any one know how to process the raw file from a survey pro data collector that shows Time stamps when the field crew started collection data and when they quit? I know trimble has a program that will do this but I'm new to survey pro.
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Posted : July 7, 2015 3:35 pm
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ChevisK, post: 326228, member: 6717 wrote: Does any one know how to process the raw file from a survey pro data collector that shows Time stamps when the field crew started collection data and when they quit? I know trimble has a program that will do this but I'm new to survey pro.
Thanks.

Go the the Spectra Precision Website and download the JXL Stylesheet Converter utility appropriate for your version of Survey Pro. Use it to convert your .job file to a "Complete Survey Report" Time stamps are in there.

http://legacy.spectraprecision.com/survey-pro-downloads.asp?Nav=Collection-71637

 
Posted : July 7, 2015 4:07 pm
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Norman Oklahoma, post: 326233, member: 9981 wrote: Go the the Spectra Precision Website and download the JXL Stylesheet Converter utility appropriate for your version of Survey Pro. Use it to convert your .job file to a "Complete Survey Report" Time stamps are in there.

http://legacy.spectraprecision.com/survey-pro-downloads.asp?Nav=Collection-71637

Awesome. Thank you sir.

 
Posted : July 7, 2015 4:13 pm
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ChevisK, post: 326228, member: 6717 wrote: .... when the field crew started collection data and when they quit?....

Oh, man....you REALLY don't want to look at those numbers. It will only piss you off. :bored:

 
Posted : July 7, 2015 4:48 pm
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paden cash, post: 326242, member: 20 wrote: Oh, man....you REALLY don't want to look at those numbers. It will only piss you off. :bored:

I have a feeling you may be right.

 
Posted : July 7, 2015 4:52 pm
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ChevisK, post: 326228, member: 6717 wrote: Does any one know how to process the raw file from a survey pro data collector that shows Time stamps when the field crew started collection data and when they quit? I know trimble has a program that will do this but I'm new to survey pro.
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It used to come out with the export "custom format" and choose "survey report" but I couldn't get the timestamp to come out. Just review the job and take pics of the time stamps on the screen, should be enough for discussion.

 
Posted : July 7, 2015 5:36 pm
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I agree with Paden.

Look at their production, amount and quality, and see if it agrees with their time-sheets. Discuss that with them if it's not up to snuff.

You start a time-stamp battle and you may end up with less in the long run.

 
Posted : July 8, 2015 4:10 am
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JPH, post: 326274, member: 6636 wrote: I agree with Paden. Look at their production, amount and quality, and see if it agrees with their time-sheets. Discuss that with them if it's not up to snuff. You start a time-stamp battle and you may end up with less in the long run.

In today's world it's more complicated than that. If you have a person who will rob you of hours on the job you probably have a person who will game the UI system. As an employer you need to document the miscreants transgressions in order to avoid continuing to carry the dead weight for months and years after the separation.

We once had an survey crew chief who wasn't getting the production. Had lots of talks, lots of warnings. In the end we used the time stamps to show first shots at 10 am, 3 hour lunches, last shot at 2:30, and 10 minutes to half an hour between edge of pavement shots 50 feet apart. Consistently. Not just one day. Day after day. Time card marked up 6am -6pm, maybe 50 shots in open country. Ugh. Today, you can't just fire unless you want to pay big UI premiums. You have to have documentation.

My wife owns a Subway store. Thankfully we have lots of great employees. But a percentage of them simply endeavor to work long enough to qualify for UI and then contrive to get themselves laid off. If they quit, no UI. If they are fired for good cause, No UI (UI will insist that you provide documented proof of your good cause). But if laid off, free money from the state, which the state recovers from the employer. Me. Us. So it's a game we are well acquainted with. Document, document, document. Because just paying the UI to people who are gaming the system in bad faith would crush the business.

 
Posted : July 8, 2015 7:29 am
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Norman Oklahoma, post: 326305, member: 9981 wrote: In today's world it's more complicated than that. If you have a person who will rob you of hours on the job you probably have a person who will game the UI system. As an employer you need to document the miscreants transgressions in order to avoid continuing to carry the dead weight for months and years after the separation.

We once had an survey crew chief who wasn't getting the production. Had lots of talks, lots of warnings. In the end we used the time stamps to show first shots at 10 am, 3 hour lunches, last shot at 2:30, and 10 minutes to half an hour between edge of pavement shots 50 feet apart. Consistently. Not just one day. Day after day. Time card marked up 6am -6pm, maybe 50 shots in open country. Ugh. Today, you can't just fire unless you want to pay big UI premiums. You have to have documentation.

My wife owns a Subway store. Thankfully we have lots of great employees. But a percentage of them simply endeavor to work long enough to qualify for UI and then contrive to get themselves laid off. If they quit, no UI. If they are fired for good cause, No UI (UI will insist that you provide documented proof of your good cause). But if laid off, free money from the state, which the state recovers from the employer. Me. Us. So it's a game we are well acquainted with. Document, document, document. Because just paying the UI to people who are gaming the system in bad faith would crush the business.

Agreed.
I am not looking for this to start any battles. We are in the mix of hiring a few crew chiefs and this is something I want to have in my back pocket. If they get whats expected of them there will be no discussion or problems.

 
Posted : July 8, 2015 8:30 am
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ChevisK, post: 326228, member: 6717 wrote: Does any one know how to process the raw file from a survey pro data collector that shows Time stamps when the field crew started collection data and when they quit? I know trimble has a program that will do this but I'm new to survey pro.
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Which Trimble stylesheet did you use? I'd be interested in that one. Thanks!

 
Posted : July 8, 2015 8:42 am
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exbert, post: 326326, member: 6143 wrote: Which Trimble stylesheet did you use? I'd be interested in that one. Thanks!

Spectra Precision's JXL Stylesheet Converter is slightly different from Trimble's Ascii File Generator. But I've found that the stylesheets from one can be used in the other. The stylesheet I recommended is called "Complete Survey Report.xsl"

 
Posted : July 8, 2015 9:11 am