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nate-the-surveyor
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The history of land surveying is fraught with various schemes, to get it done faster, and cheaper.

One of these is called "stub offs".

I'm in the PLSS. Sectionalized land.

Other tricks include eleminating all, or most redundant travel. Running at 45 degrees, to avoid steps.

Now, boundary retracement involves "walking in the footprints" of the original surveyor.

Does this mean that we also learn all the shortcuts, in common practice, at the time of the original surveys? I think so.

I think it's a good topic to include in our continuing education. Modern shortcuts include using rtk, shooting the 2 endpoints, and not knowing whats going on, along the line.?ÿ

We have a whole generation coming, who have never used a 300' tape, with plumb bobs, and abney levels.

Here is my latest Ebay find.

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rusty-Lufkin-Surveyor-39-s-Tape-Measuring-Tool-Steampunk-Rustic-Decor-/183086076553?txnId=0

I think it's a great symbol of our past... Kinda rusty, and needing oiled. I bought it so I can oil it!

Have a great day!

N

?ÿ


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 7:12 am
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Got to say the price was right.


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 7:31 am
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Posted by: Hblair

Got to say the price was right.

I guess on all of it...

The old rusty tape, the GLO surveys, and, the modern rtk "pop the endpoints only" job.

Up yer prices!

🙂

N


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 8:47 am
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Nate, you aren't a hoarder are you? ??ÿ

I do have some old stuff around here, but dang, that looks nasty and it looks like the type of tape that was newish when I started. I think there?ÿmay be?ÿone of them out in the garage next to the 300' tapes.


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 8:56 am
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Let's just say I have a "Big Heart" for old survey tapes, and the like.

Still carry the plumb bob...

Thanks Mr. Moe! 🙂

N


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 10:45 am

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Posted by: Nate The Surveyor

Let's just say I have a "Big Heart" for old survey tapes, and the like...

?ÿ

I can relate.?ÿ Instead of calling mine a "Big Heart" I just call it what it is....a "Big Junk Closet".


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 10:57 am
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Let us know if you get that thing back into production.

I have a plumb bob too. Helps me check out my GPS range pole, that's about all I do with it anymore.


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 10:59 am
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Posted by: MightyMoe

I have a plumb bob too. Helps me check out my GPS range pole, that's about all I do with it anymore.

I still like to practice "quick draw" on empty aluminum cans with my plumb bob as I walk a job.?ÿ A man has to keep in shape.

I don't know if it's an economic indicator or not, but aluminum cans are a lot scarcer than they use to be....and those foul plastic bottles are just not a good target.


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 11:18 am
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Posted by: paden cash
Posted by: MightyMoe

I have a plumb bob too. Helps me check out my GPS range pole, that's about all I do with it anymore.

I still like to practice "quick draw" ....and those foul plastic bottles are just not a good target.

Yeah, if you're working along a highway, stay away from any type of bottle; it could be full of trucker pee...

?ÿ


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 11:26 am
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don't "shoot" yourself in the foot.


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 11:33 am

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Posted by: RADAR
Yeah, if you're working along a highway, stay away from any type of bottle; it could be full of trucker pee...

Seen it way too often.?ÿ I did have a crew member that stabbed a swollen capped plastic 'relief' bottle with a 4' range pole?ÿalong the RW...on a particularly hot day.?ÿ The results were predictable and it wasn't pretty.?ÿ And I hate to say it, but it really wasn't even that funny.?ÿ The young man wanted to call the police because he was sure that pitching a pint of pee out the window was against the law.

I have been guilty of stabbing an empty aerosol paint can however.?ÿ I can report?ÿ"empty" is a relative term.

?ÿ


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 11:42 am
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Posted by: paden cash

?ÿ The young man wanted to call the police because he was sure that pitching a pint of pee out the window was against the law.

?ÿ

?ÿ


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 12:16 pm
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Years ago (so that's over 40) as a nipper in England we used to go to an indoor public pool. I think it must have been cheap and handy to the majority as it was always full. Trouble was, to keep it clean they super-saturated it with chlorine, and in those days when goggles just weren't available for kids, we used to come home with eyes like fireballs. We were quietly advised by our parents that the problem was people peeing in the pool. And the proof was a notice in the changing room that read, "We do not swim in your toilets, so please do not urinate in our pool".


 
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Upgraded gammon reel..........


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 1:14 pm
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When I came to Texas (from Kansas), I carried a tool pouch that included a hammer, 25' tape, keel, marking pen and a plumb bob (to name a few) but it blew everyone's mind when I would put that pouch on. Then I'd use the tape to help get me to my staked location and they couldn't believe it.

Today, not one person on our field crews carries any of those items.

Ah, the good ol days.


T. Nelson - SAM

 
Posted : February 28, 2018 3:22 pm

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Posted by: Squirltech

When I came to Texas (from Kansas), I carried a tool pouch that included a hammer, 25' tape, keel, marking pen and a plumb bob (to name a few) but it blew everyone's mind when I would put that pouch on. Then I'd use the tape to help get me to my staked location and they couldn't believe it.

Today, not one person on our field crews carries any of those items.

Ah, the good ol days.

I've worked for outfits that were at both end of the spectrum.?ÿ At one firm we all looked like linemen with our tool belts and gear hanging down,?ÿ at another we carried our possibles in a stake pouch and kept ourselves relatively free of encumbrances.

There is nothing worse than trying to crawl through sawbriars with a full tool belt.?ÿ There is also nothing worse than being a half mile from the truck and needing something you don't have on you.?ÿ I guess there's a happy medium there somewhere..


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 4:16 pm
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That tape is the EXACT same tape & reel (less the rust) I spent 2 hours dragging thru the briars & brambles today, looking for rebars & pipes & stuff.

?ÿ

If you can read the numbers, I'll give ya $5 for it.


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 4:58 pm
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Did you ever jump across a ditch and have the plumb-bob string burn your sunburned neck?

I have...


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 6:52 pm
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Did you ever jump across a ditch and have the plumb-bob string burn your sunburned neck?

I have...

Don't drag the string through a patch of poison ivy and then drape it around your neck if you're allergic to it either.?ÿ Luckily I'm not allergic, but I've worked with those who were.

Andy


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 7:36 pm
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At one firm we all looked like linemen with our tool belts and gear hanging down, at another we carried our possibles in a stake pouch and kept ourselves relatively free of encumbrances.

When I started out, everyone at the company wore a tool belt and no one wore a vest (unless they were in heavy traffic, and then only reluctantly) so I did the same.?ÿ When I went out on my own I continued as before, but soon decided to try a Filson vest, and within a few weeks I started leaving the belt in the truck.?ÿ These days I carry a lot of stuff in my vest, but I haven't carried a plumb bob for at least 15 years.


 
Posted : February 28, 2018 8:28 pm

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