Was it Milton Berle or Groucho Marx that said he didn't want to be a part of anything that would allow him to become a member, or something like that?
Congratulations on completing all the requirements to become licensed.?ÿ Many have proven how difficult that can be.?ÿ Some of us were simply luckier than others.?ÿ I was first licensed to do land surveying over 41 years ago.?ÿ Have worn out more than a couple stamps.?ÿ Nothing is digital.
Just got my state exam results back... Looks like I'm in the market for a stamp!?ÿ
Any recommendations?
I just got my first one (also got licensed in NY.)?ÿ I got a stamp from ProStamps https://prostamps.com/products/new-york-surveyor?variant=6253608632350
It was 17 dollars total and it came out okay, and they send a JPG of your stamp also.?ÿ It seems to work fine, but you can tell it was 17 dollars.?ÿ The rubber stamp is not perfectly in the center; it is slightly to one side. ?ÿ I will probably get a seal or do a digital signature.?ÿ
Not really a recommendation, just my experience haha.
Congratulations on your license.?ÿ
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Congratulations.
Consider what media, if any, you will be stamping. The inks that work on paper don't work well on mylar. There is special ink that is kept in special sealed ink pads that won't smear on mylar. Or so I hear; I'm a PE, not a PLS, and although I possess an embossing seal, I've never needed to use it.
As for the dirt bag that stole your stamp.?ÿ They can just create one with your info on it.?ÿ
I know an engineer, you may know him also, John. He refuses to allow a CAD version of his stamp to exist. He wet stamps everything. His thinking is that if some scumbag cobbles up a CAD version of his stamp he will be able to argue that it wasn't him.?ÿ ?ÿ Which, I suppose, is also the BionicMan's thinking.
But, isn't he going to claim that anyway? Say someone recreates my stamp, maybe even forges my signature (wouldn't be that hard to grab the whole thing off a scanned in survey from the county). If I did not do the survey, how am I liable? We are required to keep our stamp secure, but in this day and age with high res scanners, there is a lot of high end imagery that isn't under my control.
All of my stamps and signatures have been digital for over a year but, at least in my state, if you want a crimp seal (which is required on some plans in NJ), you'll need to take a copy of your actual license to a stationary store to have one made.
@norman-oklahoma I was talking with somebody one day who was telling me that he needed to submit a sealed survey to the town he lived in and only had one paper print of the signed survey but it wasn't sealed.?ÿ He said the Surveyor refused to provide him with a sealed copy.?ÿ I didn't ask any questions but immediately assumed that either the Surveyor did not get paid in full or that the survey was old enough to require an update.
As we continued to chat, he asked me how much I would charge him to very lightly seal the copy over the original signature.?ÿ I just shook my head at him and told him that there was not enough money in the world.?ÿ He replied, "no problem, I'll just use a silver dollar and a wood block with a slight tap of a hammer to make a weak impression."
Having worked in Municipal Surveying, Planning & Engineering for a 16 year time span prior to that, I was pretty well connected with the local officials in that town and gave them a heads up to keep an eye out.?ÿ As far as I know,he never followed through but that just shows how shifty some people think.
If I did not do the survey, how am I liable?
I think this is along the lines of not having to run faster than the bear, just having to run faster than the guy running with you. Not ever using a CAD stamp just causes the bad guy victimize someone who does.?ÿ?ÿ
NYS enclosed a card from Acorn when I got licensed 10 years ago (wow).?ÿ
https://www.acornsales.com/land-surveyors-seals-s/1892.htm
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I use an embosser on all maps. Generally speaking, I also try to use blue ink for my signature.
If you're going to become a philatelist, stick with American stamps.?ÿ I think the sweet spot now is late 19th/early 20th century, uncancelled and unhinged with original gum and VF grade or higher.?ÿ Beware of alterations, regumming, reperforations, etc.
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My seal was stolen from a cadd drawing and used on a plat by an unlicensed dirt-bag.
Creating anyone's stamp in CAD is a pretty simple task, so I don't see any security advantage in wet-stamping unless it comes to a court case.?ÿ That said, I still prefer to use my stamp just because I always have.?ÿ It's about 37 years old now, and a couple of bits of the outer ring have disintegrated, so it leaves an imperfect image, but that's okay with me.
it leaves an imperfect image
As long as it's still legal, that is a distinguishing feature that a forger might not match.
it leaves an imperfect image
As long as it's still legal, that is a distinguishing feature that a forger might not match.
Many (all?) map purveyors like Rand-McNalley deliberately introduce small errors in their maps (like a misspelled town name) so if it's copied and sold they can prove it's their copyrighted work and sue their a**es off.?ÿ
@jim-frame There is value in being able to say with certainty I had nothing to do with a product. No opposing counsel in any type of hearing can shake me on that. I spend a lot of time making money under oath and the value of that can't be overstated.
There is value in being able to say with certainty I had nothing to do with a product.
I would hope that having certainty about what is or isn't one's work product doesn't depend on the character of a stamp.
@jim-frame I'm not talking about my knowledge of my work products. I'm talking about relaying that knowledge to a hearing officer or judge when somebody else is trying to convince them otherwise...
I would hope that having certainty about what is or isn't one's work product doesn't depend on the character of a stamp.
It is one thing to know that a certain work product is not your own. It's another to prove that to others. If a person makes a practice of never, ever using a CAD stamp, and one turns up on a piece of work, that will be strong supporting evidence that the work is forged.?ÿ?ÿ
We all evaluate risk a little differently.?ÿ In my opinion, the risk associated with using a CAD stamp, or a mix of CAD and rubber, is too small to bother with.?ÿ But I'm not knocking anyone's decision to practice otherwise.
The one time my license number was used fraudulently (by a CE, no less) I didn't even have to go to court --?ÿ I was simply asked if I did the work, and when I said "No" that was the end of that.?ÿ (The guy ended up doing jail time, not for submitting a fake elevation survey and damaging my reputation, but for defrauding the county by submitting fake chemical analyses of groundwater samples.)