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(@paden-cash)
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I guess I can add a new slot on the list of folks that "check" our survey work...

Just had telcom with a frazzled title company employee with a closing that is being "held up". Apparently title company needs an approval (or address?) from the county 911 emergency folks to "close". 911 folks say that parcel doesn't exist on county assessor's records. They don't know where it's at..can't issue an address.

It doesn't exist on assessor's records because it is a "new" 15 acre parcel cut out of a much larger estate. Legal description AND the little "location map" S-T-R is clearly shown on my survey (dated May 25, 2012).

I guess legal descriptions aren't precise enough for 911 emergency personnel to assign an address. I told the lady that I wish I could help but the folks at the county really need to talk amongst themselves...I've pretty much done all I can do to locate the property.

btw...gee, I hope I got it in the right place. I didn't have the county's GIS map to survey it..:pinch:

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 12:42 pm
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> I guess I can add a new slot on the list of folks that "check" our survey work...
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> Just had telcom with a frazzled title company employee with a closing that is being "held up". Apparently title company needs an approval (or address?) from the county 911 emergency folks to "close". 911 folks say that parcel doesn't exist on county assessor's records. They don't know where it's at..can't issue an address.
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> It doesn't exist on assessor's records because it is a "new" 15 acre parcel cut out of a much larger estate. Legal description AND the little "location map" S-T-R is clearly shown on my survey (dated May 25, 2012).
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> I guess legal descriptions aren't precise enough for 911 emergency personnel to assign an address. I told the lady that I wish I could help but the folks at the county really need to talk amongst themselves...I've pretty much done all I can do to locate the property.
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> btw...gee, I hope I got it in the right place. I didn't have the county's GIS map to survey it..:pinch:

Yep, the ole bureaucratic "chicken and the egg" scenerio/run-around: "It doesn't exist until it has a number" and "we can't give it a number until it exists". Gotta luv it huh?

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 1:13 pm
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Yup, try and get a street address in Chatham for a vacant lot...

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 1:35 pm
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Cannot File A Deed Without Paying A Fee To GIS To Confirm ID

For a new lot that should have been part of your subdivision process.

The P.I.N. around here is based on the SPC of the centroid of the lot. Therefore if you took a lot smack dab out of the middle of a larger lot the numbers could be the same.

That is why they get the fee, to figure it out.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 1:56 pm
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Better yet, try and get a LOMA on a piece of property without an exact recorded deed of the property. I went round and round with the checklist checkers at FEMA for 8 months on a LOMA that I could not finalize because there was no 'recorded deed' that matches the current property. What idiots!

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 1:57 pm
(@paden-cash)
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Subdivision process...what a chuckle!

> For a new lot that should have been part of your subdivision process.

That would be true if anything of the sort existed in rural Grady County. Hard as it may be to understand, out west here we can still call a surveyor and have him "whittle" off a few acres for the youngest and her new husband...nail down a description and trot to the Registrar of Deeds for filing. That's the subdivision process in Grady County.

Nothing left to do but tie a rag on the fence post so the fella delivering the new mobile home will know where to turn in...B-)

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 2:07 pm
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Subdivision process...what a chuckle!

We still do it that way in many parts of the free state of Tennessee.

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 2:10 pm
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And The Registrar Of Deeds Will Throw You Out W/P ID#

ust will not accept a deed without one. Nobody else has to require it.

Do it or don't do it, but if you want it recorded, you do it.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 4:01 pm
(@a-harris)
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Federal money involved

Post Master decides address around here and it gets picked up by the other agencies.

That can take a week or so to get postal carrier to find time and remember to drive by property and check mileage along any particular crooked rural road in some cases.

I did one about 18mos ago that had those requirements.

Buyer was here for a few weeks during a move from finished project in Florida to startup project in Arizona and living out of a 30ft gooseneck.

They were ready to erupt.

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 4:38 pm
(@blakehuff)
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Subdivision process...what a chuckle!

I can confirm this.

 
Posted : December 18, 2013 6:24 am
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Subdivision process...what a chuckle!

> I can confirm this.
So can I. But I can also relate what a little birdie told me, that there are certain individuals in Grady County government who are very active, and earnest, in GIS deployment on the statewide level.

 
Posted : December 18, 2013 8:48 am