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Kent McMillan
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Kent,

> Betcha they could blow you out of your saddle with a Wii or Gameboy!

Wanted: surveyor's assistant. Must be proficient at Wii and Gameboy. Ability to read and write English optional. Pay up to 1.25 x minimum wage.


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 2:08 pm
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Based upon my understanding of the Manual, establishing corner accessories is a mandatory part of the monumentation process. The corner monument would not be complete until accessories were established...


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 2:10 pm
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Kent,

Too funny!!


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 2:11 pm
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We are still teaching cursive (home schooling)


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 2:22 pm
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It's more than just cursive writing.

Around here anyway, there are abbreviations and terms that you need to get familiar with. It sometimes looks like a line of code. (in cursive)

:beer:


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 2:27 pm

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Kent,

Sort of like my post the other day about slide rules....what is cursive? My 6 year old grandson wanted me to show him cursive over the holidays, he was introduced to it by his teacher at the Grand Canyon....(saw that the other day by the way) what a large hole!!! I do research at our archive facility here just for the heck of it, like to see how far back I can run stuff, all old cursive.. Spanish and French would leave me cold though, as do all our new instructions on a new purchase...takes longer to find the English instructions on the box than it does to put it together.


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 2:29 pm
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We don't have many GLO notes around northern Ohio, but I have always enjoyed reading old descriptions written in cursive. There were some real masters with the pen. I havent written anything in cursive in the last 30 years or so, except for signing my name.

Bob


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 2:40 pm
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Maybe they now consider the GPS/GNSS constellation as the accessories??
I don't know, I'm just saying that's what they're doing. At least here in Cali.


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 2:47 pm
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he simply said that “cursive is dead, and has been for YEARS.” Basically, it isn't taught anymore, and hasn't been about a decade or more.

I don't buy it. My daughters are currently in grade school and writing in cursive. Bogus.


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 3:12 pm
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Cursive is taught in all our local schools...


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 3:15 pm

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It's been my observation that kids know a lot more about cursing than cursive.


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 3:41 pm
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Notes from a 2000 BLM survey:

At the corner point

Set an iron post, 28 ins. long, 2-1/2 ins. diam., 24 ins. in the ground, with brass cap mkd.
T54N
R75W R74W
1/4
S 25 S 30
2000
Deposit the steel reinforcement rod inside the iron post.

N 0degrees 04' E., beginning new measurement.

Unless the steel reinforcement rod is it there are no accessories on that corner; probably none in the whole township-maybe some RM's for a point that lands in a road. But they usually place a magnet under the pipe.


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 4:03 pm
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> Notes from a 2000 BLM survey:
>
> At the corner point
>
> Set an iron post, 28 ins. long, 2-1/2 ins. diam., 24 ins. in the ground, with brass cap mkd.
> T54N
> R75W R74W
> 1/4
> S 25 S 30
> 2000
> Deposit the steel reinforcement rod inside the iron post.
>
>
> N 0degrees 04' E., beginning new measurement.
>
>
> Unless the steel reinforcement rod is it there are no accessories on that corner; probably none in the whole township-maybe some RM's for a point that lands in a road. But they usually place a magnet under the pipe.

Jim in Az and everyone else was talking about cursive writing, ok so maybe PLSS stuff is sort of like cursive....is that what you are inferin'???


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 5:20 pm
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Well we got off topic a little-he had changed the thread to accessories on the new surveys and I was just retyping a typical set of notes for a 2000 resurvey. They don't set accessories anymore was my point. Although, there's usually a metal fence post nearby. But no more pits or mounds. Haven't seen a recent resurvey in the timber-not sure how they are doing those.


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 5:34 pm
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I recently had a land development consultant wish me luck in reading a 19th-century deed of which she was unable to make any sense. The description in that deed is an important part of the title matters for the survey at hand, but she dismissed it as illegible and therefore lost as evidence of anything.

As is my habit, I saved a scan of the deed to a PDF that also contains my typewritten translation. I probably spent an hour teasing out all the text, but it was time well spent.


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 6:09 pm

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Talked to the wife who has taught from kindergarten to college and is at the high school now. She is not suprised that they can't read the notes. The students now are barely taught cursive anymore. I've got a 25 year old working for me who has no problem. Maybe he's just outside the range.


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 6:21 pm
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Any chump that can't digest cursive is worthless in our clerks office.

Many descriptions are parroted for decades after suffering a re-write on an lazy attorneys desk. You must chain back through time to find the survey gold.

I find the old script fascinating, but then I wish they still taught Latin.

Rick


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 6:29 pm
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> You must chain back through time to find the survey gold.
>
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>
> Rick

wow, that is a good quote!


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 6:34 pm
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Say that again....real slow, because I don't believe it!

Tell us the rest of the story......like no bearing trees available?

Keith


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 6:50 pm
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> his “young” surveyors could read the original GLO Field Notes, because NONE of them could read cursive writing!
> Loyal

Maybe somebody should make an APP for that, like the APP that takes Spanish signs and shows them in english.

[flash width=640 height=385] http://www.youtube.com/v/h2OfQdYrHRs?fs=1&hl=en_US [/flash]


 
Posted : January 5, 2011 7:11 pm

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