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(@pablo)
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Mighty
I was settin caps in 79...There were a lot of surveyors that hated me when I petitioned the board in setting monumentation requirements. Some had to start fessing up to their incompetence.

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Posted : December 12, 2013 5:00 pm
(@charles-l-dowdell)
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Paul:

I was 10 years ahead of you using and marking the caps on monuments as to what corner they were set to represent.

Actually when I worked for the Bur. of Recl. in 1960-1966, I set and marked a lot of brass caps on section line surveys and aliquot corners I established for many projects. We didn't do lot surveys per se, individual lots or subdivisions. An unmarked corner monument without the designation as to what it was established to represent is, to me anyway, almost a "goat stake".

 
Posted : December 12, 2013 7:58 pm
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There's a fellow over here that will set his rod and cap at every corner he finds, even it one is already there, to show that he accepted the corner. Yes, I am serious.

 
Posted : December 13, 2013 7:44 am
(@steve-corley)
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We have been putting caps on our markers for over 40 years. Not only do we put a cap on our monuments, both control and boundary, we stamp a unique ID on each cap. We have over 33,000 of them in a database, and are in the process of adding another 30,000 +- to the database.

 
Posted : December 13, 2013 7:44 am
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There's a fellow over here that will set his rod and cap at every corner he finds, even it one is already there, to show that he accepted the corner. Yes, I am serious

On going argument here, it's the requirement to do just that, by regulation....

 
Posted : December 13, 2013 7:55 am
(@bill93)
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Is the new rod really required, or would a wire-on tag with the license number suffice to show an existing rod was accepted?

 
Posted : December 13, 2013 8:25 am
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> There's a fellow over here that will set his rod and cap at every corner he finds, even it one is already there, to show that he accepted the corner. Yes, I am serious
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> On going argument here, it's the requirement to do just that, by regulation....

I just can't see any requirement that requires anyone to drive a rebar and place a cap on it next to all found corner monuments.

 
Posted : December 13, 2013 8:58 am
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> There's a fellow over here that will set his rod and cap at every corner he finds, even it one is already there, to show that he accepted the corner. Yes, I am serious
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> On going argument here, it's the requirement to do just that, by regulation....

Good grief! What is the purpose of the record of survey?

 
Posted : December 13, 2013 9:21 am
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I know this was a bait post, but what the heck. It sure is nice to see what evidence was relied upon to establish a physical location of a land boundary.

Having the surveyor's number on it sure helps track down that information.

I guess if your from a non-recording state, that doesn't mean a whole hill of beans.

 
Posted : December 13, 2013 3:36 pm
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No you don't have to set a new rod but can't wire on something. It has to be s cap and there's minimum sizes and the requirement is that you identify it-lot#'s, owner's name, proper sectional markings, so a dog tag like thing is a no-no. Anyway, arguments continue......

 
Posted : December 13, 2013 4:40 pm
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No, one corner one monument, the found one gets "updated". One old timer used 2" pipes, so those aren't so bad, just drive a rebar into it with your cap and leave the pipe. The best solution I've come up for those.

 
Posted : December 13, 2013 4:45 pm
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I've worked in jurisdictions that require some manner of marking one's license # or name and licence #, and I've worked in jurisdictions with no such requirement.

One of the primary problems I see with uncapped or untagged monuments is that in many, if not most parts of the country, one can always find some unlicensed people running around setting rebar or pipe in their illegal surveys. Finding an uncapped or untagged, no-record iron of some type around here is often a pretty good indicator of unlicensed practice.

Even if there were no legal requirement to do so, I would mark my monuments and prefer that other legitimate surveyors would as well so that I and others have an easier time of evaluating any monuments found.

 
Posted : December 13, 2013 5:09 pm
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I like the term "goat stake". Could that be ANY unmarked uncapped iron rod, rebar, pin, fir, fip, or piece of metal in the ground accepted or set by the incompetent?

Pablo B-)

 
Posted : December 14, 2013 7:49 pm
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