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MightyMoe
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One of the partners got a request for two bids, both construction. Don't really want to do that kind of construction staking when I have so much already that's unbid and T&M.

This one is on a Federal facility, 10 hours of safety training for field members and 30 hours for supervisors, Davis-Bacon and weekly reporting, and you have to access pdf's of the site plans one sheet at a time. Hate that, what a time waster.

I know that if I would bid it to get I would lose money and if I bid it to make money I won't get it. Either way it's a loser.

Plenty of work with real clients who aren't bean counters to the max.

No thank you!!!


 
Posted : December 11, 2013 4:12 pm
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I would never stake out to a pdf only. Signed and sealed drawing only. If the designer cannot commit to it why should I be responsible for missing all his mistakes whcih he can later deny.

Paul in PA


 
Posted : December 11, 2013 9:55 pm
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To be contrary ....

If the Engineer prepared the site plan (or whatever) properly all the information to stakeout a job should be readily available on a paper set.

This constant insistence by everybody and their brother to have a CAD file bothers me. If everyone would insist that everybody did their job correctly to begin with we'd all be a lot better off.


 
Posted : December 12, 2013 4:39 am
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Paul, if the pdf was a scan of a signed and sealed drawing would you use that?


 
Posted : December 12, 2013 6:55 am
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Negative On A Scan

I would accept a pdf for the purposes of bidding stakeout, but never for stakeout itself.

I worked for several firms that lost considerable money in settlements because by staking out to incorrect plans the client had to remove and replace curb.

I had earlier worked for a firm that would not do construction stakeout without first locating all relavant outbounds. The cost was included in the quote, but not as a line item that a client could say he did not need and cut the price. It paid back multiple times as a thorough final report justified the client obtaining extra compensation for what it took to correct the errors. Client costs including additional costs for itemeized extra engineering/surveying work.

I would use supplied CAD files to check against line and pointwork I created from signed, sealed originals. One of the first things I learned was to never trust the linework or points in another's CAD file. Create your own, or it is more productive to not do the job.

Paul in PA


 
Posted : December 12, 2013 10:14 am