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Hello

Attorney: Hi, you did an ALTA survey for our client about 9 months ago and now he is re-selling the property, but with a different title company. Could you revise the drawing for us?

Me: Yes, but I will not sign a drawing that is 9 months old. I need to go back out there to make sure nothing has changed and the cost will be $xxx.xx (about half of original work).

Attorney: Oh, you do not understand, we are find with you leaving the old date on the drawing, just need the names changed.

Me: I will not sign a drawing that is 9 months old.

Attorney: The owner will sign a affidavit that nothing has changed and pay you for your time.

Me: I will not sign a drawing that is 9 months old.

Not sure how many times I said that, but he finally gave in. Visited the site this morning, revised and mailed already.

New Year's resolution of not giving in to pushy attorneys or realtors still in tack!
Great start to the New Year.


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 12:01 pm
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Nice that your resolution is still "intact".B-)


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 12:10 pm
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Good for you. These people are paid to be pushy, and to try to throw liability on someone other than their clients for trivial amounts of money, but that doesn't mean they can always get what they want.

A change in title company would also involve some additional work.


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 12:39 pm
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Damn Grammar/Spelling Police are everywhere (or every were). 😀

Loved math in school, hated English as it keep me from being a straight "A" student. It was pre-spellchecker, so I would look up every word in the dictionary when I wrote a report. Wanting to get an "A" so bad, but the grammar :excruciating: .

New - New Years resolution: Add my postings to the list of things SWMBO (great at English) needs to proof before they leave the office. "Hey Honey, can you come read this?"


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 12:44 pm
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A good cup of coffee for you!


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 12:52 pm

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> Damn Grammar/Spelling Police are everywhere (or every were). 😀
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do you mean or "(every where")?

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> "....we are find with you leaving the old date on the drawing,"

I assume you meant 'fine'

Okay, sorry. I just had to jump in on the fracas. Silly typos; I make them all the time.


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 1:31 pm
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If he's willing to "pay you for your time", why not let you go to the site? It almost sounds fishy. Put it back on them and ask why they don't you want you to visit the site?

If it's okay for the client to state that nothing has changed, why don't they submit the old ALTA and have the client sign an affidavit that nothing has changed without throwing you in the mix? Maybe because the lender or the title company doesn't want the signature of the seller that it's all the same, but wants the observations made by an independent land surveyor who will look at it himself, and not rely on the sellers word that everything's okay?

If you need a professional, don't ask the professional to just sign off on a document. You think an attorney would just let a client write his own contract and "sign off on it", or a doctor take his patient's word that he needs a particular drug?

Good job sticking to your guns.


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 1:43 pm
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Scott, curious...did the map need revision due to site changes?


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 1:54 pm
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[sarcasm]That's it, I am never posting again![/sarcasm] 😉
No, I got over being embarrassed by my typos long ago. But I just hate when a mistake on a drawing or description goes out the door. Always had another office person to proof with, but being solo for the past 5 years now has made that harder. My wife and kids are starting to charge me and they still want to say feet and inches instead of minutes and seconds. 😀


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 2:07 pm
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No change, easy money on this one.
Biggest edit was me adding a note that the site was now snow covered and most of the physical improvements shown were from observations from 9 months ago. 😀 Had to laugh to myself a little on that one.


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 2:13 pm

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Good job. I can not tell you the number of times I have heard someone say they only need the certificates changed on a site and they were going to do an owners affadavit, only to find significant changes on site.:good: :good:


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 2:23 pm
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I took an office job with a long-established firm about 25 years ago. Early days of CAD. (Anyone remember HASP on HP UNIX machines?)

I was in charge of the drafting department and had a lot of catching up to the way they did things there.

A couple of weeks into the position, I was really paying attention to the first drawings that were going out under my supervision and noticed a misspelling.

In the middle of the surveyor's affidavit, the word "correctly" was incorrectly spelled "corrrectly."

The firm had been putting it out that way for at least a couple of years.

And the PE/LS owner was the head CAD guy doing it.

Oops......!!


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 4:15 pm
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My favorite typo story: A good friend attorney called and asked why the dog in the gutter was so sad (depressed cur instead of depressed curb).


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 6:16 pm
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> Me: ..... I need to go back out there to make sure nothing has changed ....
That's only a small part of it. It's not just changes. When you were paid the first time part of what you were paid for was to accept liability for errors and omissions. Your liability extended to the parties to that transaction. If you reissue the same map you extend that liability to a new set of parties to a whole new transaction. You need to be paid for that.

Not only that but you have something they need. They should expect to pay for it. It costs Autodesk maybe 5 cents to make an AutoCAD disk. They expect me to pay $4000 for it. For some reason, I pay it.


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 6:23 pm
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Whey two hangg inn they're, Scott. Doan lettum poosh ewe aroun. Itz yore nek awn delign.

😉


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 6:30 pm

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I wrote an easment for..

ASS & re-passing once....it passed spell check:-/ +o(


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 8:15 pm
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I was taught an old proofreaders system for spell checking a long time ago, before software spellcheckers.
Read the document (text) backwards. It keeps your brain from glossing over the misspelled words and "correcting" them in your mind.


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 9:47 pm
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Just curious

After reading the responses...I'm curious

Am I the only surveyor that copyrights his work?


 
Posted : January 2, 2013 11:39 pm
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damn scriveners.....


 
Posted : January 3, 2013 5:08 am
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Just curious

Does it work?

I have never seen copyrighting stop anyone from copying. I see companies sue each other and get damages after court battles, but most violations are never detected. How would a surveyor ever know?


 
Posted : January 3, 2013 8:07 am

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