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RING RING:
Me: ‰ÛÏGood morning, Local Surveyor, this is PPM‰Û
Caller: ‰ÛÏHi, your firm did some work for me a few years ago, and prepared some documents for me.‰Û
Me: ‰ÛÏOk, what is your name and address, sir?‰Û
Caller: ‰ÛÏMr. Smith, 123 Mountain View Lane.‰Û
Me: ‰ÛÏOk, I see your project here; we did this in 2010. Up on the ridge, Yeah I remember.‰Û (sometimes I remember them so well, others not a clue)
Mr. Smith: ‰ÛÏWell we have finally come to an agreement with our neighbor. And I would like you to come mark the East property line.‰Û
Me: ‰ÛÏOk, we can put some stakes on the line for you, whatever specified distance you would like.‰Û
Mr. Smith: ‰ÛÏWell, I only really need two. One on each side of the house corner. See where the house is 45 degrees from the property line? Actually if you could just mark the property line on the house itself on both sides of the corner, that would work. We have to cut off that 0.21 feet that the house is East of the property line.‰Û
Me: ‰ÛÏYou have to cut 0.21 feet off the corner of your house, because it is over the property line?‰Û
Mr. Smith: ‰ÛÏYes, that is what the neighbor and I, their attorney and mine all agreed.‰Û
Me: ‰ÛÏOk‰Û? if that is what is going to happen, we can do that for you. Let me take a look at where our control points are located on the property and I will call you with a cost and time frame to mark this for you.‰Û (Something doesn‰Ûªt look quite right.)

I look into this and check our data, to be sure that the note on the map is in fact correct. And the Note is correct. Our note shows: ‰ÛÏHOUSE CORNER 0.21‰Ûª WEST OF PROPERTY LINE‰Û.
I call our former client back, and double check...

Me: ‰ÛÏYou said you wanted us to mark property line on the house?
Mr. Smith: ‰ÛÏYes.‰Û
Me: ‰ÛÏIf you have the map in front of you, can you take a look at what it says about the house corner and read it to me?‰Û
Mr. Smith: ‰ÛÏYeah, it says ‰Û÷house corner 0.21‰Ûª west of property line‰Ûª.‰Û
Me: ‰ÛÏSo, it says that your House is West of the Property line by a distance of 0.21 feet.‰Û
Mr. Smith: ‰ÛÏ--------- Uh...‰Û
Me: ‰ÛÏSo the house is on your property by 0.21 feet which is about 2 å? inches.‰Û
Mr. Smith: ‰ÛÏCrap, that is the best news I have ever heard in my life.‰Û
Me: ‰ÛÏWell, I am glad you see it that way.‰Û
Mr. Smith: ‰ÛÏIt is‰Û? I have been trying to figure out how in the world I am going to remove 2 å? inches from the corner of my house. Now I don‰Ûªt have to worry about it.‰Û
Me: ‰ÛÏWell I am glad to hear that. If you need us for anything else, please let me know‰Û? but for now I will just put this away, and if you call me back I will be happy to assist.‰Û
Mr. Smith: ‰ÛÏI think I am ok. That is such good news. You may be getting a call from my lawyer, so he can ask you some questions about this.‰Û
Me: ‰ÛÏOk, what is his name, and how do you spell it‰Û?. if you know‰Û
Mr. Smith: ‰ÛÏHuh‰Û?. If I know how to spell his name‰Û? I have been writing him checks for 6 years.‰Û


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 1:54 pm
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Why is there not a emoji for lots of tequila!!


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 2:01 pm
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Monte, post: 386051, member: 11913 wrote: Why is there not a emoji for lots of tequila!!


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 2:31 pm
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This actually happened to my father. He was doing a mortgage report, checked into the lot corners, and was locating building corners. Homeowner was following him around like a puppy, and asked how things looked as he wanted to close out his loan. Dad said doesn't look good, as the just built garage corner was over line by about 3 feet (it was on a 45d to the lot line) Guy freaked out, as he knew they would never close out his construction loan with this issue. He said can you wait a few minutes? Dad said sure, the guy went into the garage, came out with a ladder and chainsaw. He proceeded to cut the corner off the garage, roof, shingles, siding and all right off. Asked it that was OK, dad said, well that conc slab is a bit over the line too now. Guy asked to borrow a sledge hammer, and proceeded to break the floor off. He asked if it is OK when he was done, dad remeasured and said it was just fine. (didn't meet setbacks but at least it was on his lot.) Dad drove by later that year and the guy had finished the building corner off on the odd angle, and everything was just fine.
Dad likes to re-tell that story when we drive by that lot now and then - that garage is still like that.


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 2:46 pm
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Before I agree to cut 0.21 feet of land off of my house, or a house on my property. I would hire a few more Surveyors to double check. Also I can not believe the neighbor would not sell a 3 inch strip, must be some really bad blood between the two.


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 2:58 pm

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So Mr. Smith paid $$$$$ to his lawyer because neither of them could tell east from west. For some reason, people do make that mistake a lot.
When things are that close, I try to draw it a little out of scale, so it's obvious which side of the line the building is on.
And I'll label it "0.2' Clear of Property Line" or "0.2' Over Property Line on Parcel XX"


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 3:01 pm
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But what about the eave?
I agree with making a NTS detail of the area so as to make things crystal clear.
I also wouldn't report a dimension to a house wall to the hundredth of a foot. Around here it would not be out of the question for the structure to expand and contract that much, or usually the siding is so irregular that pinpointing the precise location that the calculation is made would be difficult. But that's just me.


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 4:21 pm
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Yes, what about the eave?


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 5:33 pm
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Nate The Surveyor, post: 386096, member: 291 wrote: Yes, what about the eave?

And the 4" footing under ground


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 5:54 pm
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I'm assuming the note was referring to the eave.


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 6:06 pm

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Nate The Surveyor, post: 386096, member: 291 wrote: Yes, what about the eave?

How can you own the space above your property?

How high up does it go?


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 7:38 pm
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How high. Oh, about thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis high?


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 7:43 pm
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Your mileage may vary, but in my case it's rifle shootin' high. Any lower and your drone is going to experience mechanical difficulty.


 
Posted : August 12, 2016 7:44 pm