Nikons did flash green on one side and red on the other. Looked white in the middle. So does the S series Trimble.
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Leica have the Red/Yellow and then Both when you're on line. When you're behind a fence/in thick brush they're harder to see.
At the end of the day, the Rod is going to be the thing that's moving, not the machine. The machine isn't going to move left, the person holding the rod is. So they're the ones that get the direction from their perspective.
RADAR, post: 404562, member: 413 wrote: What if the line runs north/south and the rodman is facing east?
Which way is left or right?
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'Your other right'
When I was a young buck before the days of robotics, it was always the rodman's perspective. Still to this day I find myself calling out directions in that fashion. Make is real exciting at 150mph in a rally car I'm navigating for when I call out a left 3 only to realize the fact that I'm not calling out directions for the rodman.
I'm having a REAL hard time figuring out why some people just HAVE to make things difficult.
A couple of scenarios to cogitate: The instrument person (you) and the chainman (him) are standing at the instrument discussing the details of the plan. The truck is facing you about 1/4 mile away. You instruct him to retrieve a necessary item from the truck, and he has absolutely NO idea where it is, because it is not a commonly used device. He may not have even seen one before. As you look back at the truck, do you tell him it is on the "right" side, meaning the truck's right side as it "looks" back at you, or do you mean the "right" side (driver's) side as you look back at it.
Another one: Often times an instrument man will give BOTH verbal and directive commands at the same time. You want him to move slightly to HIS right. So do you tell him "titch right" and fling your left hand slightly and quickly to the left.
Back in the day, Wendell used to draw cartoons of surveying situations. I seem to remember one was of the instrument man standing at the precipice of a sharp cliff immediately to his left. IF you tell him "a foot left (meaning YOUR left) do you think he will get it WRONG? (The answer of course is, "not very often!"
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I (we) got used to what SMI told us.
I-man wouldn't have to think much, just relay the displayed SMI message: LEFT or RIGHT (as rodman was viewing instrument) and COME or GO (which has always seemed better - so much simplier - than TOWARDS and AWAY).
Oh yes, I do miss SMI!
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I use SMI every day..............
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Vehicles have driver side and passenger side, front and back
I find myself giving hand signals all the time with number of fingers, speed and extension of reach being indicators of distance to move.
And of course, no rodman looks at the instrumentman these days.
Dave Tlusty, post: 405243, member: 311 wrote: I (we) got used to what SMI told us.
I-man wouldn't have to think much, just relay the displayed SMI message: LEFT or RIGHT (as rodman was viewing instrument) and COME or GO (which has always seemed better - so much simplier - than TOWARDS and AWAY).Oh yes, I do miss SMI!
Many instrument-men tend to use the point stake mode for direction. Less thinking involved. I'm old school when it comes to this. I still do it manually. Giving verbal direction "to you" "to me" are my words of choice and adding and subtracting the distance in my head. I believe it's more accurate to get the average of the distance(specially with a rod man working off a hangover) vs letting the data collector tell me with the chance of catching the rod on a lean.
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Second-Generation, post: 405789, member: 1477 wrote: I'm old school when it comes to this. I still do it manually. Giving verbal direction "to you" "to me" are my words of choice and adding and subtracting the distance in my head.
I do it this way too. I laugh when I have to tell the party chief, "Your other left!"!
Jason Graves, post: 404937, member: 9531 wrote: Nikons did flash green on one side and red on the other. Looked white in the middle. So does the S series Trimble.
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S7 doesn't have the guide lights, which were handy in the woods. Now you are supposed to use the video.
When I was in college I had a poetry instructor with an unusual talent for making up rules that none of us had run across before. One day he said, ÛÏIf you know the touch-typing key assignments (theyÛªre not hard to look up if you donÛªt), write a poem or two for the left hand and a poem or two for the right hand. YouÛªll find it possible, if difficult. They might turn out to be sinister poems and dextrous poems, or gauche poems and adroit poems.Û This was in the early 1960s, so there wasnÛªt any anagram-producing software, or anything much to run it on if there had been. Whatever I produced has mercifully vanished.
I've always used rodman's left or right. Seldom makes a difference though because most can't tell the difference anyway.
I got "lost" in a browser search the other day, finding myself in a chat where they were discussing how an older woman walking the bikepath got run over by a bicyclist who came barreling up behind her and yelled "your left!" so she moved quickly to her left...... xxx........ and ended up with a fractured pelvis in the hospital.
Dave Karoly, post: 405970, member: 94 wrote: S7 doesn't have the guide lights, which were handy in the woods. Now you are supposed to use the video.
Be sure you have the GPS search enabled on your TSC3 or Ranger 3. I have found that many people using Trimble Access are unaware of this great search tool.
We would paint a big orange "L" on the chainman's boot if he could not get it right 🙂
Working in front of a Costco store back in the 90's with the cheapo "red dot/ blue dot" Motorola radios (same as they used inside the store apparently) when the manager came out looking very anguished, and asked for us to stop saying "your other fxxking left" because it kept coming across the store radios within ear shy of the customers ;). It can be a very frustrating job some times, Jp
