Residential lot over a State line

Wouldn't happen if you lived in a decent sized state. 😉

If I understand you correctly, his lot is part of a subdivision in NC, but a small portion of the subdivision, including a quarter of his lot extends into SC.

Although I am usually stand on the side of holding monumentation despite it's non-conformance to record aliquot lines, I don't think that will work across state lines. State lines can probably on be busted, broken or bent by legislature. Therefore, I doubt that a quarter of his lot is actually in SC. Three quarters of his lot is in NC, and one quarter of his lot... well, it just doesn't exist.

I'm curious, how is it that you find this out just by doing some research? It sounds like you haven't done any field measurements. Is this a known problem?

Stephen

I think maybe calling a state Surveyor for advice on this one. Sounds to me like a state line conflict.

The recorded plat shows the State line passing through the lots. The areas in each State are even broken down.

Was The Recorded Plat By A Multi-State Licensee?

Paul in PA

I'd still contact the state for their opinion. Seems like a tricky, expensive survey to me.

> Wouldn't happen if you lived in a decent sized state. 😉

Don't you'all have edges?

Seems to me, somebody, somewhere, has got to own something. How much does the state and feds own...along the boarders?

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Radar

> The recorded plat shows the State line passing through the lots. The areas in each State are even broken down.

OK. I really don't see how that would be possible. I believe you of course, but by definition, the county where the plat is recorded would not have any jurisdiction over the portion that is in SC. They would only be able to call a lot the portions of land that lie within their county and obviously within NC.

Is there a plat also recorded in SC?

Stephen

JB,

It's good hearing from you, thanks for posting.

Not that it really matters, but there is a similar situation in Colorado in which a county line runs through several subdivisions, Jefferson/Park county.

Due to the political problems that has occurred by me showing the county line on surveys that I have conducted in the past in these subdivisions, I pass on these properties.

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Due to my ideologically ways in my early years, this type of "problem" was a pet project that I would seek out. But now, in my older years, my time is better spent on projects that require less brain damage. (FWIW)

See if you can view the plat here, subject is lot 68...
Record plat

Very cool, JB!

I never understand why we put out all the theories we do without any, much less all the facts!

The link just takes me to the main page of the county Register of Deeds.....

What is the map number? I would think that since it is recorded in Charlotte ROD that you could survey the entire lot to make sure it conforms to the record and show that on your survey with a reference to the recorded map.

I've had this happen at least three times between VA and WV. I'm only licensed in VA. Each time the majority of the parcel was in VA and that's where the plat is recorded. So I've surveyed and noted the state line on the survey. I've seen surveys over the years in my area of WV and VA licensees doing this. As long as your licensed in at least one of the states.

> I do some research and find the his end of the subdivision extends into South Carolina.

"Thank Goodness!, I don't think that I could take another North Carolina winter."

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Mr. Chiles,

I take it that your comment was directed at me. That really wasn't necessary. No where in my comments have I been rude or unprofessional. I asked a few pointed questions and made a few pointed comments. I don't think I was jumping the gun at all. My comments were just furthering an interesting discussion. In fact, if you are singling me out for exhorting theories without having all the facts I would say that you are the one who is jumping the gun.

So chill out.

Stephen

To those having problems viewing, the first time I clicked the link it took me to the index page. I backed out and hit it again and it took me to the plat itself.

Interesting. So the original parcel containing the subdivision ran along a branch. And it turns out that the branch crosses the state line by somebody's determination. That obviously begs the question; how was the state line determined?

I'd say that the original parcel stops short at the state line, and therefore, so do the lots. I don't see how a property owner could own across the state or even the county line. There will be some property owner of record on the SC side. If it were me I would have to research that info.

Stephen

Its actually relatively common to have a parcel of land in two states. I've worked on a lot where the NM/TX state line goes right through the house. Remember, people owned property before state lines even existed. The establishment of a state border does not extinguish property rights (neither do international borders). Usually the jurisdiction that contains more of the property has platting authority. I would think that if one or more of the property boundaries are entirely within the other state (not following the border) a license would be required in both states. I wouldn't attempt the survey without something in writing saying I was exempt from the other states licensing laws.

Hey...

back off the small state jokes pal!!!:-) 😛 😛