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Kent McMillan, post: 437933, member: 3 wrote: This is a nearly perfect example of the simplicity of the PLSS. Thanks very much!

I jerked awake at 2:40am, now I know why LOL.

Finding the control for this project has been surprisingly easy, most of the monuments have yellow Forest Service signs all around, shhhhh don't disturb the monument, it's sleeping. Mostly open ground (other than huge trees and other mixed conifer forest). We did have traverse a quarter mile which was brushy, the other quarter and half mile lines were clearer. We said this one brushy line is very thick for Mountain Home but wide open at Jackson (coastal Mendocino County).

Tie-ing remote corners with 8 receivers, 6+ hour sessions, 28 vectors (Tuesday and Wednesday).


 
Posted : July 21, 2017 6:32 am
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That is a faint 4, did you brush it at all?
I tend to only swipe a gloved hand along a stone till the marks are visible and if that doesn't work I get out the soft wire brush, but I hesitate to do anything until I'm sure nothing is visible. I've also been taking pictures and looking at them before I start brushing.


 
Posted : July 21, 2017 7:49 am
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MightyMoe, post: 437965, member: 700 wrote: That is a faint 4, did you brush it at all?
I tend to only swipe a gloved hand along a stone till the marks are visible and if that doesn't work I get out the soft wire brush, but I hesitate to do anything until I'm sure nothing is visible. I've also been taking pictures and looking at them before I start brushing.

No I only looked at it. Garrett obviously had some good mentoring up in Humboldt because he knew a lot more about it than me. I found the stone; it is obvious.


 
Posted : July 21, 2017 7:55 am
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Dave Karoly, post: 437967, member: 94 wrote: No I only looked at it. Garrett obviously had some good mentoring up in Humboldt because he knew a lot more about it than me. I found the stone; it is obvious.

Yeah, a nice find, one of the interesting things about the older stones is that they can lose the markings, erosion can slowly remove them and even a faint marking like this one is proof of the pedigree, I would say better proof than a suspiciously fresh looking one.


 
Posted : July 21, 2017 8:43 am
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aliquot, post: 434194, member: 2486 wrote: Bearing trees rarely lie.

I found 2 original bearing trees ( circa 1886) for a quarter corner where the bearings were as close to perfect as one could imagine. The corner stone appeared to be undisturbed. The distances to both trees were EXACTLY half the recorded measurement. The monument location was corroborated by a topo call, and by distances to the section corners in both directions. Never did figure it out.


 
Posted : July 21, 2017 9:36 am

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Dave Karoly, post: 437967, member: 94 wrote: No I only looked at it. Garrett obviously had some good mentoring up in Humboldt because he knew a lot more about it than me. I found the stone; it is obvious.

That's funny I never heard of or saw a stone monument in Humboldt but he likely did more forest work than I did


 
Posted : July 21, 2017 9:58 am
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MightyMoe, post: 437974, member: 700 wrote: Yeah, a nice find, one of the interesting things about the older stones is that they can lose the markings, erosion can slowly remove them and even a faint marking like this one is proof of the pedigree, I would say better proof than a suspiciously fresh looking one.

I agree finding a 1/4 on a stone can be difficult, but I find looking for those notches a real challenge. Sometime a small notch, sometime a long one. We must look like weirdos as we look at each every stone in the area of a section corner.


 
Posted : July 21, 2017 10:39 am
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David Kendall, post: 437987, member: 12659 wrote: That's funny I never heard of or saw a stone monument in Humboldt but he likely did more forest work than I did

Yes it surprised me, I thought Humboldt would be like Mendocino, wood posts. He said there are some beautiful marked stones up there, very nice lettering.


 
Posted : July 21, 2017 1:29 pm
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Jim in AZ, post: 437982, member: 249 wrote: I found 2 original bearing trees ( circa 1886) for a quarter corner where the bearings were as close to perfect as one could imagine. The corner stone appeared to be undisturbed. The distances to both trees were EXACTLY half the recorded measurement. The monument location was corroborated by a topo call, and by distances to the section corners in both directions. Never did figure it out.

Yeah, rarely, but sometimes.... and they ate almost never as acurate as the monument itself, just a good aproximation.


 
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