I calculated the location of this corner by combining different sources of record information and a single proportion on where the section corners were located and walk right up to it with my iPhone navigating. Dan wrapped it with flagging before I took photos. 24x18x3 in granite stone, measures 12" up, 14"x3" in stone mound. One BT down and almost rotted away, one standing with aluminum tag. 1878, P.Y. Baker. Can't see a 1/4. The east quarter BLM says has 1/4 on southeast face. This stone is oriented with big faces NW & SE. This is at 6100 MSL in Mountain Home Demonstration State Forest...
Great find Dave. Thanks for sharing.
P.S. Don't forget to dimple it. 😉
Are you absolutely certain Mother Nature didn't deposit that rascal right there?
Holy Cow, post: 434192, member: 50 wrote: Are you absolutely certain Mother Nature didn't deposit that rascal right there?
Bearing trees rarely lie.
Holy Cow, post: 434192, member: 50 wrote: Are you absolutely certain Mother Nature didn't deposit that rascal right there?
The photos don't do it justice. It's a 3" thick slab of granite standing up half buried in the ground. It's definitely set by a human person.
Bearing trees are an extremely uncommon thing to find in the Government notes from this part of the wild, wild west. Thus, darn little experience has been gained in nearly 40 years of practice. Maybe they lie, maybe they don't. I don't know.
I can think of one section corner that was marked as an "X" on a boulder on the side of a cliff. Mother Nature definitely put it there.
aliquot, post: 434194, member: 2486 wrote: Bearing trees rarely lie.
Except for when they do. I friend is totally confuzzled by a mineral survey with 6 bearing trees that are all over place. For the lode claim he is surveying nothing matches the record, neither distance or bearing for the BTs. That, plus there is a 10 foot bust in the length of the 5 abutting lode claims where it appears that the mineral surveyor surveyed only one of the side lines and stubbed out the corners along the end lines.
Forgot to hit the sarcasm button above.
I cannot begin to remember how many clients or abutters have questioned my declaration that a certain stone is THE STONE no matter whether it agrees with their line of thinking or not. Too many of ours are of the same type as would be found in the immediate area, i.e., limestone where limestone is prevalent or sandstone where sandstone is prevalent.
Nice stone!!!
Found this in Nogales, AZ near US Mexico border...the orientation aligned with other stones he set in the vicinity
Holy Cow, post: 434213, member: 50 wrote: Forgot to hit the sarcasm button above.
I cannot begin to remember how many clients or abutters have questioned my declaration that a certain stone is THE STONE no matter whether it agrees with their line of thinking or not. Too many of ours are of the same type as would be found in the immediate area, i.e., limestone where limestone is prevalent or sandstone where sandstone is prevalent.
This stone marks the boundary between State of California lands (Mountain Home State Forest) and USDA-Forest Service lands (Sequoia National Forest). I'm 99.999% certain their Surveyors would accept it.
Incidentally, Mountain Home has one of the best remaining stands of old growth Giant Sequoia trees left, absolutely beautiful place. Highly recommend it.
rlshound, post: 434383, member: 6800 wrote: Found this in Nogales, AZ near US Mexico border...the orientation aligned with other stones he set in the vicinity
Obviously, it is the correct stone. I mean the surveyor left a lath to monument it.
I got better photos...Garrett found a very weathered and faint open 4 on the southeast face. There is a grape stake found on the ground with a scribed 1/4 on it...2x2 Redwood, not original. Large partially open blaze on black oak BT. Will post photos later (too big to post from phone).
How does the description of the monument and .position/size/age/species of bearing trees correspond with the original survey notes?
I know you have several of the very best tree coring tools at your disposal....give us a picture of a core with the growth rings and scribing scar....just for the interest of those that don't get out in the field anymore.
Jack Chiles, post: 434652, member: 24 wrote: Obviously, it is the correct stone. I mean the surveyor left a lath to monument it.
According to the field notes would be a clue...I think your suffering from Survey Connectitis, maybe you could take some of your own medicine and get sicker, ya that's the ticket!
I took more photos of the stone and bearing tree:
The stone:
Garrett found the 4 on the stone, taking copious notes here:
Close-up of the 1/4 on a 2x2x3' long redwood stake found on the ground:
Garrett found a heavily weathered open 4 on the stone (1878). No 1 or the line under it is visible:
My finger is pointing to the left corner of the open 4:
Another photo of the stone:
The stone with the stake next to it:
Original black oak bearing tree, large face at the bottom:
Garrett took the OIT class on how to write field notes with leather gloves. I never learned that trick
Great find you nailed it.
imaudigger, post: 437524, member: 7286 wrote: How does the description of the monument and .position/size/age/species of bearing trees correspond with the original survey notes?
I know you have several of the very best tree coring tools at your disposal....give us a picture of a core with the growth rings and scribing scar....just for the interest of those that don't get out in the field anymore.
The size of the stone and bearing to the BT match well. We measured the distance with a pocket tape, Garrett has the notes so I don't know yet how the distance fits. Garrett works for the other chief but I managed to get him down there to look at it.
Dave Karoly, post: 434186, member: 94 wrote: I calculated the location of this corner by combining different sources of record information and a single proportion on where the section corners were located and walk right up to it with my iPhone navigating.
This is a nearly perfect example of the simplicity of the PLSS. Thanks very much!