I believe this proposal leans more towards a trades solution rather than a professional solution and that is not what land surveying professionals should be striving for.
The new FS exam will not be 6 hours in length. The total seat time available to the approved candidates will be a maximum of 6 hours in length, which includes the exam.
If you talk with NCEES staff they will tell you that the 8 hour length was an arbritrary number started many years ago that artifically controlled the exam formats. NCEES's recommended direction, along with the support of the licensing boards, is to design the exam so that appropriate exam content is driving the number of questions necessary to measure the competency of the candidates.
While I understand where Paul (and others) are coming from, for the most part the FS exam is geared towards individuals that have either obtained 2-3 years of land surveying education, obtained a degree from an approved land surveying curriculum, or a combination of the aforementioned education and actual land surveying experience. If experience is accepted, than it should be incumbent upon the professional references that are signing for the candidate that basic fundamentals of field / office work has been achieved at an acceptable level, not the licensing board.
> I believe this proposal leans more towards a trades solution rather than a professional solution and that is not what land surveying professionals should be striving for.
> If experience is accepted, than it should be incumbent upon the professional references that are signing for the candidate that basic fundamentals of field / office work has been achieved at an acceptable level, not the licensing board.
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I Concur!
Once again Ric is right on target!
Sounds kind of fantasy land to me, so while we throw out hypothetical revisions to the path toward obtaining a license I will throw mine in, in addition to getting signed off on by licensed surveyors on a application there should be a requirement for a subordinate to sign off on the candidate.
I have found that if there are significant defects in a persons integrity and character they are more likely to be witnessed by those that work for them, than those they work for.
I agree. If you're going to add something to the FS I would rather see something like dendrology. I don't know how many times I've seen field notes with all trees being either pine or "hardwood". If witness trees are called for or trees are identified as corners then the surveyor SHOULD be able to identify the type of tree. Make it open book, I carry a tree identification book most of the time.
Andy
> Sounds kind of fantasy land to me, so while we throw out hypothetical revisions to the path toward obtaining a license I will throw mine in, in addition to getting signed off on by licensed surveyors on a application there should be a requirement for a subordinate to sign off on the candidate.
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> I have found that if there are significant defects in a persons integrity and character they are more likely to be witnessed by those that work for them, than those they work for.
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