Rule - Be honest
How much would it take for you to agree to fudge a property line 1' for a client who asked you to do so?
$ 5,000
$ 10,000
$ 25,000
$ 50,000
$ 100,000
$ 250,000
$ 500, 000
$ 1,000,000
$ 10, 000,000
$ 100,000,000
Basically, what you're asking is: "What is being a professional land surveyor worth to you?". I suppose if I were a real estate agent, I might entertain the hypothetical economics of the situation, but it's worth one helluva lot more to me to continue to be a land surveyor, which I would not be after naming any price.
What you ought to do is to find one of the boundary agreement specialists to help "document" that the boundary is wherever your client wants it to be. Affidavits can be prepared and seminars can be presented explaining why your client has the only reasonable position. Why, magazine articles could even be written. :>
> Rule - Be honest
>
> How much would it take for you to agree to fudge a property line 1' for a client who asked you to do so?
>
> $ 5,000
> $ 10,000
> $ 25,000
> $ 50,000
> $ 100,000
> $ 250,000
> $ 500, 000
> $ 1,000,000
> $ 10, 000,000
> $ 100,000,000
I can guarantee who ever is asking is going to go with the lowest bid.
The Bow Tie Surveyor
Now that we know what you are, all we need to do is negotiate the final price.
If a professional land surveyor ever considered doing something like this, he would cease to become a practicioner of the world's second oldest profession and become a member of the world's oldest profession. The only thing left would be negotiating the price.
Not me; no way, no how!:pissed:
OK I bid!
I'd fudge it by 0.04' for 50,000, way out in the country, past the city limits sign!
There is not enough money in the world for me to give up the ability to fluff my pillow and lay my head down for a good night's sleep.
Younger men might fancy monetary wealth as an "end all", but I don't...my riches are in other things....honestly.
> Younger men might fancy monetary wealth as an "end all", but I don't...my riches are in other things....honestly.
Absolutely right.
OK I bid!
There is an upper limit to what the savvy landowner would pay. At a certain point it would be cheaper to hire the lowest three or four bidders to pincushion it so the desired foot would show up eventually. They would all vociferously believe they were right, too, so no need to bribe anyone.
I Disagree, Surveying Is The World's Third Oldest Profession
Hunting is the world's oldest profession, as man needed something to negotiate with to the world's second oldest profession.
Paul in PA
In my area it's about 10k; but you have to have a license to practice law, and it's not called fudging:)
OK I bid!
> There is an upper limit to what the savvy landowner would pay.
Or, it would be cheaper to buy the 1' from the neighbor.
I would never do it . . . for any amount of money.
It's not so much that I'm so pure in thought . . .
Even if I thought I might do it, keep in mind that that kind of big money would ensure that you'd get caught very quickly, lose all the money and lose your license to boot.
Everything holds consequences.
I might also say that in 30+ years, I've never been confronted with such a proposition.
Those That Choose To Steal Land Are So Arrogant
They feel you should assist them for free.
Paul in PA
> Rule - Be honest
>
> How much would it take for you to agree to fudge a property line 1' for a client who asked you to do so?
>
> $ 5,000
> $ 10,000
> $ 25,000
> $ 50,000
> $ 100,000
> $ 250,000
> $ 500, 000
> $ 1,000,000
> $ 10, 000,000
> $ 100,000,000
For me, there is no amount of money that would motivate me to do that.
Many years ago I was faced with a similar situation. I was not the PLS so I didn't have to make the call.
Here is what happened. I came back to the office and found the Chairman of the County Commission waiting. He was a local real estate agent with a big deal in the works. We were working on a survey of an industrial site. Trucks making deliveries and picking up merchandise used a side entrance. The plant owners had no right of way to that entrance. The agent demanded that we show a right of way because "this is costing me a lot of money".
He never even offered to bribe us. He thought he could make demands and we would comply. (We did not). That was the day I lost any respect I ever had for the agent. In a strange way I might have had more respect if he had at least offered a bribe. We wouldn't have done what he wanted bribe or not.
Larry P
Honestly, the correct answer is not shown here.
The correct answer is "None of the above since I won't do that."
If the client wanted me to place fudge on the property line 12" and he supplied the fudge I'd probably do it for nothing with the stipulation that I got some of the leftover fudge if there was more than 12" worth on hand.
Most property owners wouldn't pay for that.
If you really need the 1' then they should 1) don't find out where the boundary line is and 2) get their neighbor to agree to establish a fence as the boundary on the desired location.
There is no need to pay for a Survey, even a fraudulent one which would probably get knocked down anyway.
Just pointing out there is a route for people to legitimately take if they disagree with the line and want it 1 foot somewhere else. Attorneys are paid to advocate regardless of whatever they believe to themselves is the truth. So I send people with these kind of thoughts to an attorney or for a second opinion from another surveyor.
Not actually an uncommon situation, although the offers of money are usually more subtle, or couched in terms like "well, we can't use you for this other 10k job unless...."
Would never be tempted to misrepresent my work.
Devious clients do not rely upon us to follow their will, they can and have moved or destroyed monuments without any help.
:-X