Politely Correct Red Lines From City

> Please modify the survey accordingly:
>
> Change
> "Manhole Cover" to "Inspection Cover For Sewer Line"
>
> Change
> "Handicap Ramp" to "Sidewalk Ramp"

Why not use Maintenance Hole Cover?

"Man"-hole cover is gender biased. Didn't you know that?;-)

And you can't very well call it a Womanhole cover...:-O

Rob

Cross-GenderHole

Send it back with

$h!thole cover &
cripple ramp.

Then tell them that is just as ridiculous as their PC nomenclature.

You've never heard of a "Person Hole"?

I ran into a similar situation years ago.

Here in AR, we have an abundance of cotton picker spindles. These often make their way into pavement at corner locations. On my plat, I noted a cotton picker spindle as the monument for a section corner. The reviewer of my plat (large corporation real-estate personel) sent back comments on my plat, and #1 was "remove the racial inference at the se corner of section 30. -- lol

anyone here offended by cotton picker spindle?? I learned through the ordeal that some now call them cotton harvester spindles.

Send it back with

> $h!thole cover &
> cripple ramp.
>
> Then tell them that is just as ridiculous as their PC nomenclature.

That is funny!

Johnny Cash was a cotton-picker so it aint racist....

> I ran into a similar situation years ago.
>
> Here in AR, we have an abundance of cotton picker spindles. These often make their way into pavement at corner locations. On my plat, I noted a cotton picker spindle as the monument for a section corner. The reviewer of my plat (large corporation real-estate personel) sent back comments on my plat, and #1 was "remove the racial inference at the se corner of section 30. -- lol
>
Answer to Large Corp Personell:

Dear sir:

I am deeply offended by your racial slur toward the monument at the SE Cor. of Sec. 30.
Please refrain from any further comments in that genre or I will be forced to alert the civil rights division of the the FBI.

Sincerely,

SJ

The dipwad!

Anyone who has spent any time in country where cotton is raised knows what a cotton picker spindle is, it is a hunk of metal that is conical with a gear on the large end.

Anyone who has spent any time in country where cotton is raised knows what a cotton picker spindle is, it is a hunk of metal that is conical with a gear on the large end.

Plus is it make a good survey mark. They are used all across N. Louisiana too (aka cotton country).

Joe51

We call them Cotton Gin Spindles, not for PC, just what they're called here. If'n I were you, I'd call them whatever in the hell you wanted, including but not limited to, Cotton Picker Spindle, Cotton Gin Spindle, Cotton Spindle, Iron Stake with "D" in dimple in top of 3" long tapered, really damn hard steel, Cotton better pickin spindle, Cotton, Advent of Technology, Spindle, Cotton, Eli Whitney, Spindle, etc.

Send it back with

Kris, you're the no bullsh#t man! 🙂 😀 :party:

Joe51

> If'n I were you, I'd call them whatever in the hell you wanted, including but not limited to, Cotton Picker Spindle, Cotton Gin Spindle, Cotton Spindle, Iron Stake with "D" in dimple in top of 3" long tapered, really damn hard steel, Cotton better pickin spindle, Cotton, Advent of Technology, Spindle, Cotton, Eli Whitney, Spindle, etc.

Cotton spindle? A spindle made of cotton would not be of much use.....

Adam

Those are either names I've heard them called or thought of on the fly. Either way, I won't be dictated to the nomenclature that I use for corner calls by anyone. That was my point.

We as surveyors have a duty to show the facts and report the new and sometimes old names of objects and features we see. For instance, I have a plat in the records with the name of a street, now known as Castner, but the old deeds called is Ku Klux Avenue. Also, I've located trees (big ol' sycamores) that were witness in deeds as being where So and So was hung. Still evidence to the corner. Whether or not we feel touchy feely about it is irrelevant, but calling for it by a new name and the old name shows the chain of evidence for the corner or line.

Call them whatever you want, but if the deed called it a Cotton Picker Spindle, and that's what I find by any other name, that is what it will be called on my plat and in the notes, regardless of who it may offend. I'm not here to make friends, but protect the public in the location of corners and lines.

Kris

My apologies....I meant to put a smiley-face by my last comment.;-)

I agree with you. I would not (even) be shy about quoting an real offensive term, but would most likely put it in quotes and say 'as referred to in xxxx document'. "Cotton-picker spindle" isn't in the least offensive though, in my eyes.

Adam

No worries Bro!

🙂

Adam

I sent the company pictures of one I had laying around and some literature regarding what their initial purpose was. Along with, I also explained that I could not call it a cotton harverster spindle because surveyors in my area knew it as a picker spindle (not that it really would have mattered, but that's the excuse I came up with). I also scanned a few older plats with the same term. All this just so they didn't perceive me as racist when I refused to remove the terminology from my plat.

fun fun

Kris

> Those are either names I've heard them called or thought of on the fly. Either way, I won't be dictated to the nomenclature that I use for corner calls by anyone. That was my point.
>
> We as surveyors have a duty to show the facts and report the new and sometimes old names of objects and features we see. For instance, I have a plat in the records with the name of a street, now known as Castner, but the old deeds called is Ku Klux Avenue. Also, I've located trees (big ol' sycamores) that were witness in deeds as being where So and So was hung. Still evidence to the corner. Whether or not we feel touchy feely about it is irrelevant, but calling for it by a new name and the old name shows the chain of evidence for the corner or line.
>
> Call them whatever you want, but if the deed called it a Cotton Picker Spindle, and that's what I find by any other name, that is what it will be called on my plat and in the notes, regardless of who it may offend. I'm not here to make friends, but protect the public in the location of corners and lines.

Kris

I used to live just over 1 block from the local (Pasadena, TX) KKK meeting hall back in the late 70's and early 80's. They used to stand out on the edge of Red Bluff with their bullhorns and sheets on.

It eventually got torn down. Never did bother to learn how that came about.

I never saw it but it was claimed that until the early 70's Pasadena had a sign at the city limits that told Negroes not to let the sun set on them in that town.

I believe the wording was somewhat stronger and more direct than I used.

SJ

That brings up the ever-important question...

If a Woman is the chairman of a committee and insist on being called a Chairperson, Does that make her a Woperson?

James