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Please End Our Debate on This Federal Note!

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MightyMoe
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There was no temporary location, they stubbed out the monument which was the final position. 80.00 chains? 50lks? move 25lks? topo calls west of the corner, no topo calls east of the corner, bearings of East and West. It's classic note filling. A E-W section line with no topo west of the 1/4 but topo east of the corner probably means it was stubbed out from the east, usually cause of terrain. 

The two bearing trees right on top of the corner indicate deep woods, did they really hack their way another 1/2 mile? Possibly, very much doubt it. 

 


 
Posted : September 11, 2025 6:14 am
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I am accepting the word is "tempy" an abbreviation for temporary. I am not used to seeing this - most others for this area just said "set 1/4 sec post" or "set post".

Tiffin's instructions does use the word average at resetting a 1/4 to the true line by offsets from the random. So, I am inclined to accept "av" as average. Also not a typical notation in the state/fed notes for the area.

I have always found the similarities and differences in note taking of the various surveyors interesting. Also, deciphering their handwriting can be a challenge, but a fun puzzle.


 
Posted : September 11, 2025 8:47 am
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Was the line nothing more than a "paper" survey? The 80 chain distance and lack of topo calls in the eastern half do seem odd. But nothing in the notes show it to be a fraud. Thus until something is found that refutes the survey, I think the "ancient document rule" (Indiana) should apply. 

I'm now wondering what local GIS or google earth show.

 


 
Posted : September 11, 2025 12:02 pm
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At first I thought the "p" was an  olde style "s" in the middle of a word.  Tend to agree with many that it is a slightly shortened version of temporary.


 
Posted : September 11, 2025 5:03 pm
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Posted by: @mightymoe

There was no temporary location, they stubbed out the monument which was the final position. 80.00 chains? 50lks? move 25lks?

Right right. Good chance didn't run past the 1/4* on the random line and then pencil whipped the notes to indicate they ran the entire mile to the east and then back west. But in their pencil whipping they pretend to reset the temp corner where the line should be had they missed the sec. corner by 50 links as stated.

 

*I think stubbing out 1/4s was WAY more prevalent than one would imagine.  


 
Posted : September 12, 2025 10:32 am

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