1891 Set 4”x4”x4 ft. Aspen Post in mound of stone
1927 Recovered old post (rotted at base) & set 4x4 inch sawed pine post, 4 ft. long, 18 ins in ground at the exact spot surrpunded by a mound of stone with the old post a alongside.
1994 “Found post and pile of stones, set rebar and cap”
2013 see below:
Recovered old well embedded mound of stone with red plastic cap and top of decomposing wood post (some marking visible).
Upon careful excavation of mound, found top of old rotted post.
After further excavation, and careful removal, the base of the 1927 4”x4” pine post, ~14 inches long.
Placed 2½” dia. X 36” long flared Aluminum Post with 3¼ Dia. Aluminum Cap 24” in “original” HOLE, and rebuilt mound of stone. Placed 6' Carsonite Post driven 24” in ground Southeast of corner. Red Plastic cap bears N64°W 0.6' (within new mound of stone).
Got out of there just before the snow hit!
Loyal
So close (with that red cap), and yet, so very far.
Lovely.
I've seen a lot of those (usually with a stone). I just consider the rebar or cap an accessory. 😉
Loyal, I feel your pain, frustration, and joy.
I just finished a survey where similar garbage was left by another "surveyor" within a couple feet of easily discoverable physical evidence.
One section corner had a recorded corner record tying the position of a 1920's pipe county marker, of course the marker was "gone" and a new rebar & cap "magically" appeared approx 2 feet away at a fence corner. After breaking out the metal detector and 3 minutes of digging, the flange of the pipe monument was found.
At the corner one mile east of the above mess, a rebar & cap was placed approx 1.7 ft (at a fence corner of course) from a stone 1869 std corner, clearly marked with "SC" on top, and easily visible after pushing back a small sagebrush. The "new" corner record emphatically stated "no original evidence found".
It was tempting to remove the "garbage" and deliver them to the other "surveyor" in such a manner as to discourage such future behavior, but thankfully, I came to my senses and instead tried to diplomatically inform him of his "carelessness". However, I'm pretty sure it left no long term impression or reason to try harder next time.
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I'm curious Loyal, Why isn't that pin and red cap laying about 100' feet away after you yank it and wing it?
Excellent work!
That's great work Loyal and I know you weren't surprised. Why else were you digging around out there?
Is that up around Park City? I should have stayed up there but the wife wouldn't go for it.
Leon
Yup...
Matt and I excavated six mounds of stone (3 with red plastic caps), and recovered original wood posts (or obvious remains thereof) at all six corners. Two of the Corners had been remonumented with 6x6 posts in 1908, one of which still had nearly two feet of the 6x6 extant (about 0.8 ft. from another 1994 RPC). I've been telling Matt about recovering Wood Post Mineral Survey Corners for years, he believes NOW!
We found MANY of the Original Bearing trees (most of them dead), INCLUDING several Aspens (still healthy) dating back to the 1891 and 1908 surveys.
We also determined that the OLD iron pipe that many surveyors have ASSUMED is USMM No.2, is in fact an angle-point in the 1935 survey of the Summit & Wasatch County line, and about 11.6 feet from USMM No.2 (destroyed by persons unknown with the help of some dynamite in the distant past). We will have to excavate several nearby Stone Mounds (also recovered) next Spring, inorder to nail USMM No.2 down and remonument it.
We'll probably have to do that on our own dime...
Loyal
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Leon
> We will have to excavate several nearby Stone Mounds (also recovered) next Spring, inorder to nail USMM No.2 down and remonument it.
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> We'll probably have to do that on our own dime...
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> Loyal
Now that boy there....he's a real surveyor. Take your pictures now, you probably won't see many of them critters around. 😉