A little background.
A buyer was purchasing a property that was an old sub-division from around 1905. The plat was filed but nothing was ever built. Eventually, in the estate of the original sub-divider, the lots were sold off...that deed only listed the lots and said nothing of the roads. It just listed lot numbers. Title issues ensue over the road with the title guys and I agreeing that the roads were never conveyed...then the town refuses any ownership of the roads, and says that the adjoining lots must own the roads, etc blah blah blah...long story short we ended up just saying that the roads remained in the possession of the heirs of the original sub-divider (it doesn't really matter, you'll see if you keep reading). The new buyer gets ownership of the roads through quiet title/quitclaim. So now they own the entire sub-division, lots and roads.
We are dissolving all of the original interior lots and creating only two lots from the entire thing via a new plat.
Because of all the issues originally, there are about 30 notes on the existing conditions survey (which is included in the complete plan set but will not be filed with the county).
The plat we are preparing now is already complicated with lots of easements, proposed stuff from the engineer and the dozens of notes and engineering details required by the county.
The question is:
In an effort to make this already complicated map more clear for the future...would you not show the notes or mapping concerning the internal boundary problems since we are erasing all the interior lines and problems?
Thanks!
Tom
On a vacation and replat I usually show the originally established lines in a subdued/shaded manner and refer to them in the legend as extinguished lines from the vacated plat xxxx of xxxx. Subsequent easements are noted and dealt with in the same way. You usually don't need to go into more detail than that.
Of course you may need fifteen or twenty signature blocks authorizing and accepting the replat.
As a surveyor, you must provide an opinion. However, you must also present the facts as basis for your opinion. As for the statement "make this already complicated map more clear for the future," this is your opinion. Another surveyor may, based upon facts, arrive at a differing opinion.
Real estate people and lawyers think they "make … more clear for the future" day in and day out and pollute and destroy completely good evidence and facts. Do not do as they do. Present the facts - all of them. Your opinions are only anecdotal.
Could use enough sheets to avoid clutter or do a boundary survey showing all of the boundary's and history, then on your new plat, say it was based on your previous survey. In a non recording state that may not work as it would in a recording state and the multiple sheets would be better, don't know of any requirement that all the data is to be shown on one sheet.
jud
I usually show them as a dashed or light gray line and in the legend show the line and with text "origional lot lines."
We're showing all the out bounds evidence and notes. What I am thinking of clearing up concerns all the issues with the internal roads and lots that were never built and are being dissolved. Once we file this map none of the issues with the internal lines will be relevant going forward.
We're going to show all the internal old lines without bearings/dist. It's just the notes that I was wondering about.
If the current owner has bought it all, lock, stock & barrel (or lots, steets & alleys), and the location of the interior lots will have no bearing on the new parcel & easement lines, and no interior monumentation was used to re-establish the exterior boundary, I see no need to show all of the inerior linework which will no longer have any significance.
An additional sheet for narrative and notes is probably in order depending upon how much there is to discuss.
