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(@stephen-johnson)
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Need some information about working near the Ohio River Baseline

HELP!!

+o(

 
Posted : January 14, 2013 1:55 pm
(@dallas-morlan)
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> Need some information about working near the Ohio River Baseline
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> HELP!!
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> +o(

Post your questions several here may be able to help. Email in my profile is current if you prefer to make private contact.

 
Posted : January 14, 2013 2:27 pm
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The water is deep and cold this time of year, so don't fall in and the hillsides are steep and slippery.

If we had more info we could probably help you.

 
Posted : January 14, 2013 2:36 pm
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Need to know where to find township information. In that area the section layout seems to run South to North, instead of the zig zag that is standard further west. Also need to find the survey instructions.

B-)

I am glad we have a local surveyor doing the boundary work needed, but we still need to understand some of the basics of the area.

 
Posted : January 14, 2013 3:22 pm
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Many Ohio surveyors will have the full scale map copy from "Original Ohio Land Subdivisions" by Sherman. It's a good starting point for understanding the township numbering.

The instructions (laws) vary, depending on which survey you are working with. Most are listed in the book I referred to.

 
Posted : January 14, 2013 5:53 pm
(@doug-crawford)
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Numbered as the one on the right?

 
Posted : January 14, 2013 6:17 pm
(@jlwahl)
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And at least in the 7 ranges the townships are numbered north from the river starting in the east tier and moving west sort of like the sections in the township except because of the sinuosities of the river townships in each range are often not adjacent. There are special ways to deal with that I suspect. Hopefully you have someone licensed there knowledgable in the system.

-jlw

 
Posted : January 14, 2013 6:28 pm
(@rochs01)
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They actually started in Western New York. Ohio was the
first official State to be turned into blockheads - my nomanclature.
Western NY is quite rectangular and I bet some of you would
question their numbering system.

 
Posted : January 14, 2013 7:47 pm
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Gotcha - my bad...

 
Posted : January 14, 2013 7:50 pm
(@dallas-morlan)
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> Need to know where to find township information. In that area the section layout seems to run South to North, instead of the zig zag that is standard further west. Also need to find the survey instructions.
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> B-)
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> I am glad we have a local surveyor doing the boundary work needed, but we still need to understand some of the basics of the area.

Reprints of Original Ohio land subdivisions, by C. E. Sherman. are available from Ohio Department of Natural Resources (ODNR) at http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/geosurvey/tabid/7181/Default.aspx . The original accompanying map is out of print. However, a new version showing the same information and produced by more modern methods is available online for download, in CD/GIS format and hard copy. This is also an ODNR product available at http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/geosurvey/pub/dms/dms_mg02/tabid/7238/Default.aspx both the text and the map should be a great help in understanding the broken jigsaw puzzle that is Ohio. The "survey instructions" for most of the state are the original federal laws enacted. These laws are included in or referenced by the text. In many of these cases formal instructions were not issued.

Additionally parts of the state were not surveyed as sections or even subjected to the indignities of a rectangular survey system. The Virgina Military Surveys are random, very free form and completed under the system of surveys used in colonial Virginia.

 
Posted : January 14, 2013 10:47 pm
(@doug-crawford)
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From Sherman's Report

 
Posted : January 15, 2013 5:25 am
(@stephen-johnson)
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Thanks for the help.

We do have an Ohio Surveyor doing the heavy lifting on this project. I just need some basic info so the underlings don't get totally lost.B-)

 
Posted : January 15, 2013 3:03 pm