I had recently prepared a site survey for a new compressor facility in McKenzie County and provided for a new access road. Unfortunately the route was moved and we have to make a reroute onto a property that was not included in the original survey. Does anybody have the ability to pull the deed for the adjoiner? I would be most appreciative of any assistance and I am always willing to help fellow beerleggers when I can. Thanks.
You're not going to base your survey on one deed are you?
No. I'm going to base my survey on section monuments I found. I just need the recording information to show on the plat and to verify that it is an (ironically enough) aliquot description.
I'm assuming you have checked online for the information? Be warned, anywhere within about 20 miles of Watford City has turned into an area where multiple monuments exist at many of the corners, be very careful with your research. This has turned into quite the experiment with some corners having multiple corners set my the same surveyor. I still can't comprehend how this happens.
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When I was in ND recently (very rural county, population about 2000), I noticed that there is a road every mile, sometimes at the half mile. They were almost all dirt. So, the question is, are the roads centered on the section (and 1/4 section) lines? If so, are there buried corners in the dirt intersections? Or are the roads built off of the section lines and the section lines run along one side, where one of the fences are? I didn't get out and look, but I didn't notice anything like a monument box in the intersections. Just curious, as I am from a metes and bounds state.
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That's a typical PLSSia sight. In most cases, the road is intended to be centered on the section line so that each landowner was losing an equal share of land to the road.
Well Andy, you got several educated, opinionated replies and not one single answer to your question? :-S
Sorry Andy, have you tried the NDRIN.com, it may contain the information you are needing. If not, I may be able to pull the information you need. I added the words of warning because I believe the area you are working in has had several issues in thesurrounding area, within the township.
I have an NDRIN subscription and work in McKenzie county on an almost weekly basis. Would be glad to help, since I lurk here and don't donate to the site. Can you PM me with your contact info?
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Yep, Mr. Cow is correct. Typically there are rebars, pipes, etc. buried in the middle of the intersection. If not, the common practice is to plop a rebar at the centerline of whatever roads, trails, etc. intersect at that point, and there's your new corner. Original corners are usually buried several feet deep in the bottom, but with the oak posts and charred stakes you have to be extremely knowledgeable about what you're looking for and it's a labor intensive and time consuming process, usually involving a backhoe. Hence, why people typically just beep for a metal monument and set something if they don't find it. That describes 95% of the corners at least in the east half of ND.
Sometimes you can get testimony from an old timer who personally witnessed (in the 30's - 50's) when they built the roads, and they would sight down the section lines (based on original corners) with a transit to set the gravel road alignment, for whatever that's worth. Point is, the road intersections are generally a faithful perpetuation of the original section lines.
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Thanks for the explanation. I lived 9 months in a PLSS state (Indiana) while I was a student at Purdue. I took a course in PLSS (John McIntire), but that was 30 years ago! So I do have a basic understanding of how it all works. Plus, I like to follow the discussions on this board about PLSS stuff. It probably varies state to state, I am originally from Kansas but left there in 1965. So while I have worked in PLSS states doing control, I have never done any boundary work there (nor do I intend to).
Yeah, actually I had an NDRIN account and I thought I was finished with this project. I wasn't anticipating any additional work in North Dakota so I cancelled the account. To restart the account and download 2 pages would be $27.
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In 1960-61 we had a bachelor teacher named John Hamilton in my tiny two-room grade school. He taught the room with the Fifth thru Eighth Grades. I recall being told several years later that he had left teaching and went to work at the Kansas Neurological Institute in Topeka. He was a "duck out of water" kind of fellow in our little community, but a nice guy.