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NGVD 29 to NAVD 88 Conversion Factor

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(@field-dog)
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Is there an easy conversion factor available for NGVD 29 to NAVD 88 corrections? We're adding old NGVD 29 BMs to our NAVD 88 network, and I just want to do a rough check. I assume that an accurate conversion factor is also based on latitude and longitude.

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 6:41 am
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If you don't actually have a benchmark with both NAVD88 and NGVD29, the NGS VDatum Tool is what you are looking for.

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 6:46 am
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Look at NGS Data Sheets for nearby marks to compare the conversions used on those marks:

https://geodesy.noaa.gov/NGSDataExplorer/

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 7:31 am
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VERTCON from FEMA or USGS. FYI in most of Central Florida the elevation difference between the two is 0.92' ?????ÿ

Edit: Beware of the "City of Orlando" their vertical datum used to be in its own world.

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 7:38 am
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@flga-2-2

I'm guessing that world's name started with a D?

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 8:48 am
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Our difference is very close to 0.42 feet in my area of work.

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 11:31 am
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2.45 up to 88 down to 29

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 11:36 am
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29 -0.4 to 88 -1.8 to NSRS

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 12:34 pm
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Most recent project;

88 to 29 down 4.40 feet, but varies about 0.1 across the [SMALL] project.

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 12:47 pm
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Depends on where you are...

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 2:26 pm
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There is no ƒ??accurate ƒ?? conversion, unless you might want it good to 0.1 feet in a low elevation flat region of land.

LOL to those who gave the adjustment in their area! They are all different! The difference between the datums is relative to where in the country you are.?ÿ

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 3:54 pm
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@geeoddmike

Dang.?ÿ The use of longitude east through there for a bit.?ÿ It's bad enough needing to convert from smoots to U.S. Feet.

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 4:14 pm
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With respect to references to non-NGS sources of VERTCON, be advised that they probably use version VERTCON 2.1.

This version has been superceded with VERTCON 3.0 which is incorporated into NCAT available at the NGS site.

For those interested in this new version see the Technical Report available here: https://geodesy.noaa.gov/library/pdfs/NOAA_TR_NOS_NGS_0068.pdf#page94

 
Posted : April 30, 2021 9:48 pm
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Thanks to all for the abundance of information!

 
Posted : May 1, 2021 7:11 am
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@robertusa

Not sure what you mean "there is no accurate conversion".

The conversion a fixed number depending on location.

 
Posted : May 1, 2021 8:49 am