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For corners in Section 8:
S1/4-SW Cor: Record-N89å¡54‰Ûª29‰ÛW, 2739.79‰Ûª Measured-N89å¡54‰Ûª26‰ÛW, 2729.80‰Ûª
SW Cor-W1/4: Record-N00å¡56‰Ûª12‰ÛE, 2643.67‰Ûª Measured-N00å¡56‰Ûª09‰ÛE, 2643.65‰Ûª
W1/4-NW Cor: Record-N02å¡45‰Ûª22‰ÛE, 2697.43‰Ûª Measured-N02å¡45‰Ûª24‰ÛE, 2697.39‰Ûª
NW Cor-N1/4: Record-S89å¡42‰Ûª05‰ÛE, 2644.46‰Ûª Measured-S89å¡42‰Ûª04‰ÛE, 2644.50‰Ûª

These numbers are comparing an existing survey from a few years ago to one from last week, the existing survey I presume was done using RTK and the new one was also done with RTK, both surveys declared SPC bearings and ground distances.

Neither was done by my office, the new survey was by an engineer that is a client of mine. He gave me the dc file.

I cheated on the distances a bit, the first company used a DAF of 1.000294, while the engineer was using a DAF of 1.0002716423 so I changed the long one to 1.000294 and got the distances shown above.

It's amazing how tight these measurements have gotten. 🙂

 
Posted : October 13, 2015 6:47 am
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It's amazing how tight these measurements have gotten.

Yes, +/-2cm positioning looks good enough at wide separations and not so slick as the separation distances shrink.

 
Posted : October 13, 2015 7:07 am
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MightyMoe, post: 340318, member: 700 wrote: S1/4-SW Cor: Record-N89å¡54‰Ûª29‰ÛW, 2739.79‰Ûª Measured-N89å¡54‰Ûª26‰ÛW, 2729.80‰Ûª

First one kinda sucks...TYPO?

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Posted : October 13, 2015 7:08 am
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yes, a typo, my typing skills are not to great 2739 is the correct footage

 
Posted : October 13, 2015 7:14 am
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Kent McMillan, post: 340322, member: 3 wrote: Yes, +/-2cm positioning looks good enough at wide separations and not so slick as the separation distances shrink.

Pretty good though, if you ignore my typo.......
And it must be noted that these monuments are sans dimples B-)

 
Posted : October 13, 2015 8:56 am
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Knowing how well these things can measure if handled moderately well just makes it more unforgiveable when the all too common FUBAR occurs.

 
Posted : October 13, 2015 9:09 am
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Looks like +/-1cm. I'll take that any day.

I'm continually impressed by the low residuals in direction. It's a result of the difference in inversing positions (GNSS) versus angularly transferring directions (conventional traverse), but it's still amazing.

 
Posted : October 13, 2015 9:17 am
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We are making it too easy for the guys retracing us 100 years from now. 😀

 
Posted : October 13, 2015 10:32 am
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We could transfer all the data to hand written notes using unlined paper, then make about 100 copies of copies.

 
Posted : October 13, 2015 11:23 am
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Out of curiosity, what is your opinion on the stability of the monuments, I feel like any sort of freeze/thaw would most likely cause a monument to be by a few cm's

 
Posted : October 13, 2015 10:40 pm
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And it must be noted that these monuments are sans dimples

Isn't that pretty much standard when there is +/-2cm s.e. noise in the positioning? Is the defense: "Well, the corner was somewhere on the (2-inch) cap, I just didn't say where"?

 
Posted : October 13, 2015 11:21 pm
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I wasn't out there, but these are stainless steel pipes 36" long, flared bottoms with 3" brass caps, usually they are close to flush. Frost heave isn't usually any issue, it's the random field truck that will get them.

 
Posted : October 14, 2015 5:08 am
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2" cap???? That would be a lameo monument to set at a section corner, maybe if you have to drill one into a rock outcrop. 🙁

 
Posted : October 14, 2015 5:13 am
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I was surprised, the distances weren't all that close till I used the same DAF, then they came together.

 
Posted : October 14, 2015 5:15 am