KY, FL (Inactive)
Maybe I have missed someone, but we don't seem to have anyone yet from Ohio or Montana,
Update:
OK, I missed Luke with a Montana license in my count above.
Still don't see anyone from Ohio.
Holy Cow, post: 426234, member: 50 wrote: Still don't see anyone from Ohio.
Maybe they went back to Ohio and their city was gone...
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Maybe you should look in the middle of the road...
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Ohio has inspired many a musician...
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OH, KY, MI, WI, WV
Mainly working in Ohio, but occasionally expand out to WV, MY, or MI.
Holy Cow, post: 426050, member: 50 wrote: We need more to officially add their record to the list. For example, Kent Mc made posts #78 & 80 put did not explicitly mention the States in which he is licensed.
Well, Texas is the equivalent of four or five different states all mashed together, each with its own little story. The real question is why anyone would want a license to survey in some other state if they were qualified to survey in Texas. I am, for example, licensed to survey in:
- Central Texas,
- South Texas,
- West Texas,
- Far West Texas,
- the Llano Estacado,
- the Panhandle,
- North Texas,
- Northeast Texas,
- East Texas, and
- Southeast Texas.
I suppose that if a person were on the run, and If there were a shortage of qualified surveyors in some remote hell hole outside of Texas, it might make sense in the short run, as well. However, In the long run, it seems an admission of failure or desperation to collect licenses from places outside of Texas like multiple passports from Third World countries where one would never really want to live.
Kent McMillan, post: 426279, member: 3 wrote: Well, Texas is the equivalent of four or five different states all mashed together, each with its own little story. The real question is why anyone would want a license to survey in some other state if they were qualified to survey in Texas. I am, for example, licensed to survey in:
- Central Texas,
- South Texas,
- West Texas,
- Far West Texas,
- the Llano Estacado,
- the Panhandle,
- North Texas,
- Northeast Texas,
- East Texas, and
- Southeast Texas.I suppose that if a person were on the run, and If there were a shortage of qualified surveyors in some remote hell hole outside of Texas, it might make sense in the short run, as well. However, In the long run, it seems an admission of failure or desperation to collect licenses from places outside of Texas like multiple passports from Third World countries where one would never really want to live.
Jeeeezus Kent, your humility never ceased to amaze me. I've don't think I've ever ran into anybody that was so overly impressed with their own ability to draw a long breath.
And the most humorous part of it all is the majority of all those "far away and exotic" places you claim you're licensed to survey within are nothing but desolate wastelands. If there weren't oil underneath it, Washington would have given it back to Mexico years ago.
The rest of us unsophisticated minions with licenses from the other 49 states only received a printed and signed sheet of paper for our official 'license'.
No doubt a Texas license requires a 110VAC receptacle to be near by to properly operate the flashing neon lights, bells, whistles, smoke machine and music box that plays "The Eyes of Texas" every time one signs a survey.
Utah and Utah PLS and PE.
Neither one has really ever paid off for all the education, experience and other required to obtain. To really make any money I'd need to lower my standards below my belief system. There is the profession of surveying and the business of surveying. They are at odds with one another. To make any money in the business of surveying in my area you need to mostly ignore the profession of surveying or at least be oblivious to it. You can do professional work but you must do it at the business rate, most clients don't have a clue between professional and business work.
paden cash, post: 426280, member: 20 wrote: Jeeeezus Kent, your humility never ceased to amaze me. I've don't think I've ever ran into anybody that was so overly impressed with their own ability to draw a long breath.
And the most humorous part of it all is the majority of all those "far away and exotic" places you claim you're licensed to survey within are nothing but desolate wastelands. If there weren't oil underneath it, Washington would have given it back to Mexico years ago.
Yes, oil and the fact that much of it is privately owned adds a dimension to Texas surveying that many of the one-note states probably don't share, I is true that it's hard to be humble about being a Texas surveyor in a way that probably comes so naturally in PLSSia where the nature of the work is so much less difficult.
In what world does a higher degree of difficulty provide superior results? Use your noggin'.
What you're saying is more people pass an advanced calculus class than a simple algebra class because of its degree of difficulty. That's insanity. Screwed up surveys in Texas are a product of Texas. The fact that better land tenure design-and-title systems exist is just an indication of the inferiority of your Texas system. If it is so wonderful and produces such superior surveyors, why are you always belly-aching about all the mistakes you trip over? And why haven't other states adopted Texas's wonderful system?
In reality the majority of surveying licenses in Texas are probably held by non-residents whose employment has taken them there at one time or another.
Kent McMillan, post: 426300, member: 3 wrote: I is true that it's hard to be humble about being a Texas surveyor in a way that probably comes so naturally in PLSSia where the nature of the work is so much less difficult.
Just out of curiosity are you licensed in any PLSS states? If you are you would understand PLSSia has just as many quirks and problems as whatever the survey system is in Texas. Also most of the PLSSia, and Colonial registered Land Surveyors donÛªt ÛÏpincushionÛ original monuments regardless of their position.
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Kent McMillan, post: 426279, member: 3 wrote: ...I suppose that if a person were on the run, and If there were a shortage of qualified surveyors in some remote hell hole outside of Texas, it might make sense in the short run, as well. However, In the long run, it seems an admission of failure or desperation to collect licenses from places outside of Texas like multiple passports from Third World countries where one would never really want to live.
Interesting...I always thought the above described why people went to Texas in the first place...
Kent McMillan, post: 426300, member: 3 wrote: Yes, oil and the fact that much of it is privately owned adds a dimension to Texas surveying that many of the one-note states probably don't share, I is true that it's hard to be humble about being a Texas surveyor in a way that probably comes so naturally in PLSSia where the nature of the work is so much less difficult.
Says the person who hasn't surveyed outside of Texas
antcrook, post: 426231, member: 6417 wrote: Hawaii
Want to hire an aging rodman?
John Putnam, post: 426390, member: 1188 wrote: Want to hire an aging rodman?
Will work for suntan oil and pina coladas maybe? 😉
Mr Cash,
You have the wrong islands. I'll work for Long Board beer or pineapple cider plus dive air money.
Arizona. When I get things straightened out here I'm done...
FL/GA PLS., post: 426339, member: 379 wrote: Just out of curiosity are you licensed in any PLSS states? If you are you would understand PLSSia has just as many quirks and problems as whatever the survey system is in Texas. Also most of the PLSSia, and Colonial registered Land Surveyors donÛªt ÛÏpincushionÛ original monuments regardless of their position.
Sorry, but the fact that the PLSS is inherently simpler than the system of metes and bounds grants followed in Texas under four different sovereigns is obviously true. I realize that surveyors in PLSSIa want to complicate something that is a model of simplicity, but the whole idea doesn't pass the laugh test.
The complaints about supposed PLSS complexity I've heard so far appear to boil down to two categories:
(1) "but I can't find any original corners" or
(2) "but different surveyors have different ideas about where the corner is"
while of course ignoring the great simplication of working within a checkerboard that was all typically subdivided at the same time by the same Deputy Surveyor.
paden cash, post: 426308, member: 20 wrote: In reality the majority of surveying licenses in Texas are probably held by non-residents whose employment has taken them there at one time or another.
To tell the truth, I don't know very many first-class Texas surveyors who were licensed in PLSSia before deciding to give it up for Texas. There are a few, but they are definitely the exception to the rule. I don't think the immigrants from PLSSia ever really recover from discovering that:
(a) there is no Manual of Surveying Instructions for work in Texas and
(b) that a deep history needs to be excavated in order to get close to a defensible answer in many boundary determinations.
I can think of at least one California surveyor who came to Texas and found himself completely disoriented, aside from being able to figure out how to drive back to California. I'm not saying one should expect that to hold as a universal proposition, though. :>
Folks were are not curing cancer or saving the world from hunger. We render an educated OPINION on someone's Boundary. I really don't see how surveying in Texas is any harder than in the PLSS or the other metes and bounds states. And we have our fair share of old Grants, just a quick google search and some of our oldest ones predate Texas by 50 years. But hey maybe there isn't a long line of incompetent surveyor in the rest of the Union, as in Texas.