You believe the accuracy specs in the marketing literature?
all I can say is I just got in from the field a couple of minutes ago. Shot 600 points in 4 hours. Numerous shots to control points from each set up, and each control check was right on the money. I've got no complaints. Just a smile at the end of the day.
anyways, anyone who has a Leica 1200 series and is complaining about it, I've got no sympathy. It is extremely fast, and incredibly accurate and very, very smart, both hardware AND software.
Its only limitation is the operator. I kick butt with it and really enjoy my days in the field where the robot is called for. I honestly don't believe there is a setup out there that is superior.
You don't? I have put them to the test multiple times in controlled environments and held my breath until prefabbed machinery was bolted into place. I have put both of these brands through the paces, and both lived up to the published specs.
Almost all Leica hardware is more accurate than it's Trimble counterparts (when proper techniques are used, and in applicable environs) thus it has more applications. You can get a "High Precision" S6 that helps a little with this disparity, but not by a lot. For example almost all S6's are accurate to 0.01' = 3mm (1 sigma); the new Leica TS30 is accurate to 0.6mm - that's a huge difference. I know that this is ridiculous to mention to most surveyors, but these capabilities can open new markets.
Well said Adam
Ralph
> You don't? I have put them to the test multiple times in controlled environments and held my breath until prefabbed machinery was bolted into place. I have put both of these brands through the paces, and both lived up to the published specs.
I doesn't matter what the Manufacturer says, the prudent thing to do for the modern surveyor is to test your equipment and come to your own conclusion. For the most part you'll find the manufacturers are pretty close to what they claim, especially when it comes to high end equipment.
Ralph
How accurate is your tribrach?
> I doesn't matter what the Manufacturer says, the prudent thing to do for the modern surveyor is to test your equipment and come to your own conclusion. For the most part you'll find the manufacturers are pretty close to what they claim, especially when it comes to high end equipment.
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> Ralph
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A trip to a CBL is a must with any new instrument purchase. Just like car manufacturers they all make the occasional "lemon", but the manufacturers are held to standards the same as us.
Doesn't matter if you free station.
I own a TCRP 1203 and a S6 3", neither are opening any new doors. One is much better at tracking a prism for topo though...
Well, obviously the "doors" I was referring to would need to exist in your area: manufacturing, processing, high-rise architectural, etc.
On the bright side, you have the best of both worlds!
I have found that the S6 tacks better up close, mostly because of turning speed. Do you have the power search option on the Leica? If you do, I have found that it kicks the Trimble's butt as far as searching goes, but that is even a moot point once one gets proficient with the layout of the menus.
Yeah we have the power search. My problem with that is it takes longer to search when it loses lock. I know I can play around with the search windows too. Even to one up the S6 a bit more, we have the $3000 active track prism. It is awesome for getting shots through small opening in foliage and for not losing prism lock because of automobile traffic in a busy intersection.
When you run a traverse using the TPS 1200, do you run it in ATR mode or lock mode?
I agree, nothing beats Leica hardware. Nothing turns a pretty set of angles like a Leica. Some of the software stuff is weird, seems like it was dreamed up by a backwards chimpanzee.
I have never used an S6, funny that an instrument that costs that much doesn't have a laser plummet.
Can you even see a laser plummet on a bright sunny day on a dark colored cap? I can't with my TCRP 1203 and I have better than 20/20 vision.
yes I can. I stand in a spot that shades the top of the cap. You can also change the intensity. It can be turned up in the bright sunshine and I often have to turn it down to 10% in the Redwoods.
ATR mode. The GPS search (both brands) when using robotic is an awesome feature, I just wish it wasn't so cumbersome. I wouldn't use a Trimble without the active track target, it is way worse about locking onto things other than your prism. The Leica will do that too, mind you, just seem like it's quite as bad about it.
I always get tickled watching someone use a laser plummet that hasn't for a while. I takes them about 30 seconds to realize that they can shade the point, then they get a stupid me look on their face. I have been guilty of this a couple of times myself.
What I love about laser plummets is that they are inherently easier to check calibration, just spin the gun & watch to see if the laser moves.
I should probably add, we have about a 5 year supply of orange control point caps we use...
To answer the initial question, the internal radio on the TSC2 running TA will not work with your Leica TS. The internal radios on all brands of collectors are proprietary. To give another example, the TSC2 w/internal radio will also not run the Trimble 5600. If you would like to use Access you will have to run an external Leica radio. As for the accuracy/productivity debate, I would gladly pit an S or V series Trimble robot against any other manufacturer. They all work great and I have worked with most. I think the accuracy is going to come with good practices and be based of of the stated specs of the manufacturer. When it comes to performance, the optics in the newer Trimble robots are absolutely incredible. The tracking speed and ability to stay locked is unparalleled.
When I open Suvey Styles in Trimble Access and create a Leica style....the 1200 is not listed as a choice....
Probably because it is a newer instrument and the big players do not like to play with each other.
As someone mentioned below...the internal radio probably will not work either.
This is exactly what I have found out. There may be a way to make them work but it is beyond my skills. Unfortunately I will have to stick with Leica for now.
